Thursday, April 20, 2006

The BioPro Cell Chip EMF Harmonizer is a scam.

This blog is a public service announcement to expose this scam. Please link to this site to help inform others.

1. the BioPro Technology website at www.bioprotechnology.com, www.bioprotechnology.ca or www.mybiopro.com (for resellers) has a variety of products including a BioPro Cell Chip that claims to "harmonize" EMF (electro-magnetic fields) from devices such as cell phones.

2. The BioPro Cell Chip is a cheap, 5 cent plastic sticker which they charge $30 USD. They describe it a "the flexible resin mylar composite Cell Chip", "powered by BIOPRO’s Proprietary Energy Resonance Technology (ERT TM)"

3. If it was that easy to block EMF, DON'T YOU THINK CELL PHONE COMPANIES WOULD HAVE DONE IT ALREADY.

4. You can only block electromagnetic radiation (radio waves, gamma waves, microwaves etc.) by using a dense material, ie. lead. Think Superman. There is a reason why his X-Ray vision doesn't work on lead.

5. BioPro Technology recommends you use the following number of BioPro chips for various devices below. PLEASE HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!?!?! Do you really think people believe their coffee maker and electric fan emit harmful electro-magnetic fields??

Cell Phone - One Chip, Cordless Phone - Two Chips
Desktop Computer - Three Chips, Laptop - Three Chips
Handheld Computer - One Chip, Game Station - Three Chips
TV - Two Chips, Refrigerator - Two Chips
Microwave - Four Chips, Hair Dryer - Two Chips
Automobile - Three Chips, Vacuum Cleaner - Two Chips
Coffee Maker - One Chip, Alarm Clock - One Chip
Electric Fan - One Chip

6. They use a standard disclaimer that none of their claims have been proven:

"These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. The products and/or technologies listed are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."

Since the FTC has already successful sued and fined 2 similar companies in 2003 for scamming previous customers for claiming their "chips" could block cell phone radiation.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/12/interactcomm.htm


Comments welcome. Of course this site is in no way affiliated with BioPro Technology or MLM Marketing or FemOne or any of the various marketting scam companies run by these guys.

433 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you know it's a scam? Did you try it and not notice any good effects?

The superman analogy makes it all so clear now...

September 29, 2006 3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you need to read up a bit more because bio pro does not claim to block emf's. it harmonizes with your bio field to neutralize the emf's.
Please think about this...
If the cell phone companies used any technology to protct you, they would be ADMITTING that there is a problem, which they are unwilling to do YET!

October 11, 2006 9:46 PM  
Blogger Gericke Potgieter said...

After some research I actually concur with this blogger that Bio Pro is as close to a scam as it comes. You can read a well written (albeit somewhat technical) summary of years and years worth of EMF research by the WHO here: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/

The basic theory is that non-ionising radiation does not break up molecules (ergo damage cells on molecular level) but rather causes heating. The effect of low range EMF radiation has been thoroughly investigated (WHO mentions 25 000 scientific articles written on the subject) and even though there are lots of it, there is as much natural radiation (if not more) in both the ionising (X-RAY) and non-ionising (radio waves, cellular waves) variation.

The analogy of Superman does not work as lead and other heavy metal meshes are mainly used to block ionising radiation fields.

EMF radiation can be changed through polarisation, but this method often strengthens the actual wave rather than neutralises it. So it is possible to develop a neutralisation device. Such as device would however neutralise your cellphone signal as well.

A small sticker, or pendant, stuck onto a screen for instance cannot (as far as I have found) neutralise the radiation given off by a 17" screen (as you are being bombarded by radiation from the full 17"). Moreover, in every case of cancer, illness, tiredness, and other ailments mentioned in the infomercial for Bio Pro none of the more relevant factors such as emotional stress or eating/drinking/smoking habits have been taken into account.

Bio Pro uses words like "harmonise" and "bio field" loosely to refer to things that are in effect quite different from what they report it to be. EMF radiation affects our bodies, but our bodies (having been exposed to it since the dawn of the universe) are well equipped to adapt .

Just a note to the blogger though - do make a point of writing things that are well researched - in so doing you will build credibility for your case and save thousands of people many thousands of dollars rather than use language and sentences that are as empty as the promises of Bio Pro. This is one case where the world of science is entirely in your favour.

October 24, 2006 9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi i actually suffer from a rare form of feeling raditation and energy around me that causes my body to degenerate, and im more ill then ever before, you would be suprised how much radiation is out there, and how one can feel it when the body is out of ballance in some way..
i have a qlink pendant and its helped me, not fully to where i cant feel radiation or electro magnetic rays, but it definatly helped, so im not sure about these new things, but i do know everything electric puts out a strong current that can actually cause us more harm then we can feel, or are aware of..be careful n live healthy is all i can say..goodluck

November 17, 2006 9:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The author of this blog brings up an important discussion point, can we trust one of the leading companies in the field of EMF-blocking technology? I must say, it's a rather shameless

I would like to second Gericke's suggestion that the author back up his statements with solid research and documentation when being so aggressive and vociferous. Indeed, this is an important issue and not one to polarize about.

I would like to direct the author and readers to peer reviewed studies regarding the efficacy of BioPro's Cell chips and related technology:
http://www.bioenergeticsinstitute.com
and click on "Research Reports." Follow your nose.

Another website worth reading before forming such strong opinions would be http://www.mybiopro.com/AU/Research_BIOPRO_Chips.aspx?ID=tm,
This is BioPro's collection of research studies on their products.
Some of it is pretty hard to dispute unless we contend that they are simply lying. The biggest one being the thermo-imaging. According to these studies, the heat build up inside the head, brain, and ear canal is virtually nill when the chip is applied to the phone. Why is that? And does that mean it's safer?

It's an easy assumption to make, but no one has 'proven' it yet.

It also effects the EMF of the person, increasing it's diameter. I've seen consultants claim this is a good thing, but with no explanation. PErsonally, if something is effecting my personal EMF field, I want to know in what ways!

I'd also like to address the point made about cell phone companies. As long as there is doubt about the dangers of cell phones, no cellular company in its right mind would sell blocking devices! That would A.)Be admitting that cell phones are or could be dangerous so B.)Lawsuits galore would manifest and C.) Cell phone usage would drop. They probably have thier own lobbyists in congress suppressing the research.

January 21, 2007 6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Identity: Clark Kent
AKA: Superman

I, Clark Kent, would like to comment that I have never nor will I ever use my x-ray vision for evil. As for the stickers known as BIO PRO, I say that I have seen a slight increase in my flight/land speed ratio. Without the BIO PRO products I could only travel at an average speed of mach 1-1.8 air and mach .9 land. Now that I have BIO PRO I can not only fly mach 2 but I can also run at mach 1.3 (this has been proven by NASA using GOOGLE EARTH). When I am without my BIO PRO pendant Kryptonite has an increased harmful effect on my supernuts, but with my pendant I get 50% less Kryptonian effects. Therefore I highly recommend that you stupid eath worms buy the BIO PRO stickers at a whopping 30$ each...PS. I am in no way working for BIO PRO...Love Clark Kent VP of Marketing BIO PRO.

February 21, 2007 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biopro is a complete scam.

People who fall for their claims tend to be not scientifically minded and are desperately looking for answers to their ailments. I am sorry for the people who may be in poor health, but I consider the makers of these stickers to be completely unethical and believe what they are doing is criminal. I lump them in the same category with people who sell bogus insurance to the elderly or trick them into divulging their credit information over the phone.

Never the less. . .
consider these points:

1. If their technology really worked, why would they not patent it?
2. On their website, why do they not make ANY attempt at describing HOW they are achieving this "harmonization" effect.
3. If you are still seriously considering buying this product, go to any local scrapbook store and look in their sticker section. You can find extremely similar stickers for just pennies at a store such as Archiver's.

Consider the possibility that the Biopro stickers are just a scam and not he magical answer you are looking for.

I have seen these stickers because my mother has purchased them for my family in an attempt to "help." Her efforts are genuine, but I know better.

February 24, 2007 10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BIOPRO is a complete scam! A quick look at Ray Grimm and Steven Page and their colesterol lowering fraud via Femone should tell you these guys have been involved in snake-oil for years. Look at what these guys are driving and the houses they are living in. They are making money out of the wallets of people looking to calm their fears. Their pseudo-kinesiology "arm-test" is a complete joke. There has been no peer evaluated research on the effects of their product on any living person. Their alleged thermal imaging shot is totally bogus. In fact they say themselves that their chips DO NOT stop tissue heating. Basically they contradict themselves at every opportunity.As for Dr. Carlos - he's just a paid lackey and has had no published work since the early 90's where all this Bio B.S should have been left.Their pseudo-scientific jargon is supposed to "wow!" us into buying into this scam -PLEASE don't fall for forking out $2000 to help pay for their Porsches and Lambourgini's and mansions and cottages. I encourage anyone to go to one of their "business overview" (indoctrination)meetings with an open honest mind and see the truth for yourself. If you really question them about it they start throwing around "quantum physics" but oddly don't know even basic physics.

April 18, 2007 4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also checked out Biopro's "Vitatonic" and "fruit and veggie" pills which are also big frauds. These daily supplememnts work on the outdated assumption that if we take nutrients in some compressed, pill form the nutritional values will be transferred to us. Many studies have shown this to be in fact bogus. The value of fruits and vegetables come when taken as whole foods. Not harvested, broken down, reconstituted, etc. The value of packaged foods is really zero. Its just another way a company can take a raw material, process and repackage it to be appealing to the general public. The amount of refined sugar in the "vitatonic" and older "nutratonic" is very disturbing. Extra doses of sugar isn't something any diet needs. If they have to sweeten something with sugar it must be unconsumable. How did a fresh fruit or vegetable become unpalatable? Through the refinement process. I think common sense would make anyone see a problem with that. Also if the "fruit and veggie" pills equal 6-8 servings I would challenge anyon to take their fruit and vegetables out of their diet and take these pills. I guarentee you won't feel too good in a few days.

April 30, 2007 11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is interesting info. I can't say one way or another if it works or not, although it could work based on the same concept as RFID, which is a tiny chip that gives off a counter-signal only when a certain signal is applied to it. Wal-Mart pioneered this technology and many retailers us it today - it's the 1x1 in white square stickers you see inside many packages. (Most people think it's an anti-theft sticker.) Apparently it's a network marketing company. I found this guy's web site that says he shows people how to MLM -whatever. I'd at least like to get my hands on one of the "chips" and cut it open to see what's inside. If it's based on the same concept as RFID, they may be on to something?? No judgment here.

The guy's site is:
www.mlmultrasecrets.com/biopro.php

May 27, 2007 1:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me clear up the OBVIOUS differences between the biopro product and RFID. I also hope this will better inform you before you plunk down a lot of your hard earned money on an idea that should be VIGORUSLY investigated by the FTC if they are not already looking at them.

1. "RF" in RFID stands for Radio Frequency. Def: All RFID tags contain at least two parts. One is an integrated circuit for storing and processing information, modulating and demodulating a radio frequency (RF) signal and perhaps other specialized functions. The second is an antenna for receiving and transmitting the signal.
1a. None of these basics exist in their product. There is NO circuit for storing and processing information and there are NO means to transmit a signal to combat EMF. So how does it actually counter EMF? It DOESN’T! It’s physically and scientifically impossible as well as not provable!

What we have here folks is a genuine modern day “snake oil” company at the most extreme. Come on, this is SIMPLE. When you have a product like energy drinks, health drinks, weight-loss products, etc. - all of which ride the fine line where you cannot prove OR disprove since they do not need to be verified by the FDA or any other regulatory entity, what do you really have? Biopro is just pushing the limits of everything here from verification, logic, decency, honesty, and in my opinion SANITY to a degree unseen in the industry to date. They claim they are “revolutionary” – and I should say so!

There are legitimate MLM’s that sell genuine products like Mary Kay and Amway to name the two “most honest” and well known. Both of which offer REAL products you can use and actually see a result from and a real home based business you can make “HONEST” income from.

June 01, 2007 8:09 AM  
Blogger Bio Pro Technology California said...

Its 2007 people!!! Wake up!!! Wholelifetimes.com has come out with an article called """MOBILE MADNESS the undercurrents of our wireless world""" Pages62-65 June 2007 issue outlines the Health Hazards for children under 20, the brain tumor lawsuits emerging, the studies done by univeristies and not just Bio Pro Technology. Using a cell phone more than 2,000 hours in a lifetime raises the risk of getting a type of brain tumor called a GILOMA by 40 to 270 percent! Preventative measures have been taken and Bio Pro is a part of the Safe Wireless Initiative! If our nation is depleting the ozone layers, causing pollution~ why wouldn't one assume that electrical radiation is not a factor??? It is in small and large capacities all over the world. The Bio Pro Cell Phone Chip is assisting in protecting the human body and does not claim to stop all causes. Your mention of the company Wave has nothing to do with Bio Pro. Independent Research is being conducted because the studies sponsored by our wireless companies remains INCONCLUSIVE while the wireless companies remain unregulated . The companies are also exercising their power to keep safety and health concerns from being addressed. Wake up and stop acting like a $30.00 Cell Phone Chip designed by a Bio Chemist is going to break your pocket when its obvious this company is far more involved than what you claim as a SCAM~ Don't sit in the dark.......Do more research! this company is a part of a movement to make Health a priority~not the income they are making from the nation of cell phone users.

WWW.MYBIOPRO.COM/DESTRESSEMF
Raquel Esparza
Bio Pro Consultant

June 06, 2007 12:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop drinking the coolaid and WAKE UP yourself!

Sighting an article on the Web is Pathetic! And OF COURSE it’s a yoga oriented site… ha-ha! Well, you definitely fit the mindset and mold Biopro needs and has acquired for a consultant base.

Anyone can find anything they want to validate ANY idea - doesn't make it true.

You say; “Using a cell phone more than 2,000 hours in a lifetime raises the risk of getting a type of brain tumor called a GILOMA by 40 to 270 percent!”

Then tell me why people are not LINED UP at the emergency room with tumors by the millions? There has been plenty of time for the line to form cause after all, cell phones have been around since the early 80’s to the general public. Earlier than that if you want to get technical. And back then there was MUCH more EMF pollutant than today and in fact my father had one for work which had a BACKPACK for signal sending. So publicly for more than 3 decades (educate yourself on its history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone) we have had cell phones but by the way you sound it’s like the plague. A little over sensational aren’t you?

You site the “Safe Wireless Initiative” which is founded by a trial lawyer, Dr. George Carlo, who was de-funded from his studies looking into cell phone safety and has obvious reasons for his claims. TO MAKE MONEY! Just like the owners of Biopro! Off of vulnerable people like you!

Then you go into the “ozone layer” and pollution which soundly places you into the “KOOK” corner. The spinning of the glob creates a magnetic affect – I guess we better stop the glob from spinning. FYI – it’s the SUN that creates the ozone so again, educate yourself in some basic 8th grade science and then come back here with a bit of rationality.

Finally, $30 is a TOTAL RIP OFF for a piece of plastic with some gel in it that does NOTHING. I would bet that the actual production costs are less than $3.00. So who is being saved here… I would gamble that it’s the pocket book of the people scamming you.

June 07, 2007 9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$3.00? Try closer to 3 cents! These stickers are a pure joke. There has been no study that the BioScam chip has any effect on any tumour-causing process. Many people think they "feel" better after using BIOSCAM products...Ever heard of the placebo effect? That effect has actual scientific studies. Unlike any BioSCAM products. Please save yourself a couple of thousand before you get a box in the mail with a bunch of papers and cd's and little stickers. Really, my friend got totally ripped and I really feel bad for people who fall into this pyramid scam.

SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT BIOSCAM!!!

June 11, 2007 5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WELL SAID!

Also check out: http://www.bioprotechnologyscam.com

Another realy good source.

June 11, 2007 9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a ridiculous scam. I went to one of their meetings hosted by their idiot customer service rep. Naseer( in Canada). This moron actually did the silly "arm strength test". This is where they have somebody hold onto a plugged in power bar with their arms outstretched. He then pushes the arm easily down. Then they plug their "home harmonizer" into the power bar and low and behold the person has new miraulous strength!!!!!! and the arm can't be budged. Of course that idiot Naseer didn't notice a "home harmonizer" was plugged in about five feet away. Its supposed to have a 40 foot radius of protection. I walked out. I wish I had stayed but I had already wasted too much time.

If that was a scam why wouldn't the rest?

June 15, 2007 6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to Raquel's line:

"Wake up and stop acting like a $30.00 Cell Phone Chip designed by a Bio Chemist is going to break your pocket"

This is what Biopro wants. They want us all to think "Oh its just just $30" Then you're sucked into this and that and soon "Oh its just a couple of grand for a business builder" Sorry Raquel - they got you good. Please stop ripping off your own friends and family. If there is a problem don't let Biopro give you the belief they have the answers - they are just salesmen in a pyramid scam.

I like your line "Wakeup" - you should try that yourself.

June 15, 2007 6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the last two posts, that is correct!

I knew it was all crap when at one of the meetings I went to, they had a gauss meter which is a hand-held device looking something like a Star Trek device that measures or reacts to EMF. They were showing people the sound this gadget makes when you’re not making a call and them when you’re making a call on your cell. The sound out of this thing is designed to be obnoxious so you get the "feeling" its something bad that’s happening.

In reality, this device is as bout as accurate as throwing darts at a dart board in a dark room. They were walking around and it was so inconsistent I was embarrassed for them. It is obvious these people that run the company are winging this idea in hopes to capture enough gullible people to make themselves more rich. Perfect example of “money corrupts”.

I found out that the CEO has tried to start several other companies before this one, other MLM companies of course, and all failed. You think he would have learned but then comes out with this EMF protection company. What a KWACK!

I also went and checked the site http://www.bioprotechnologyscam.com which is even more detailed and compelling. I hope the FTC does investigate this company and shut them down before they rip off anymore people.

June 17, 2007 9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading about these hoax test they conduct... reminds me of their "lemon test". This where they "show" the working of their "smart card" aka piece of usesless metal that really a $200 business card. They cut a lemon in half and put one half on the card and leave the other half off. Then everybody tastes it. Guess what. The "charged" lemon tastes exactly the same. What a joke... I couldn't believe they actually get away with this crap. But, supposedly this lemon is "harmonized" to our tatse buds so MUST taste better. Thats what they try and convince you of anyway.

The only thing BioSCAM products harmonize is your money with their bank accounts.

June 18, 2007 12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are absolutely right!

If you have not seen this credit card with no bar code but can withdraw $200 from your wallet - take a look here!

http://bioprotechnologyscam.blogspot.com/2007/06/smart-card-scam.html

June 19, 2007 12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heres a link to an article about Ray Grimm and his FemOne and BodyWise scams. It start about half way through. For you Canadian flok up north don't forget Steven Page and Naseer Khan both were in the BodyWise scam before you found them doing doing their dihonest pyramid scheme at Biopro in Canada.

http://www.sdreader.com/php/cityshow.php?id=996

Theres 3 Major problems with Biopro

1)The people who run the company (U.S. and Canada). These guys have a history of misleading honest hardworking people.

2) Its a pyramid scam(more on this soon)

3) Their use of real science to support their junk science. This is how they fool honest folk into believing thy have the answers to what might be a real problem.

June 20, 2007 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOLLY CRAP!

After being involved with biopro for a short short period and seeing how they conducted themselves with “smile in your face then stab you in the back” phony baloney… I knew this man Ray Grimm was deceptive.

He reminded me of a catfish - sucking the dirt off the bottom of the creek hoping for something to fatten his already bloated ego and wallet – but this article seems to be full blow PRISON TIME deceitful!

I could go on and on about the lack of character with each of the corporate individuals at biopro but I think time is short for them and will be out of business soon.

That’s an amazing article, thank you for sharing.

June 21, 2007 9:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cant believe you people are so slow get out of your little square box and open your mind a little this is not a scam you think you would want to help your family and our children our future generation from something that is harming them anyways I use propro products they are amazing never felt better and I know my family are protected and healthy and my beautiful children can grow into adult life without having there cells damaged from this harmfull radiation

'there are people who want to help our world and the people in it not everything is driven by money'

July 25, 2007 2:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s sad that you have allowed yourself to be scammed by exactly what you’re accusing the Bloggers here of being, “in a box”. By posting statements in this manor you expose your lack of education in the area as well as your obvious narrow minded Leftist elite thinking. Yes, it is obvious you’re a Liberal because:

- You use total emotions and “the children” statement in a sad effort for argument
- You come off as though you “know better than all of us” and that WE should understand
- You present zero facts
- And you claim it’s not about money but your making a profit off this product! Why don’t you just buy them and hand them out for free if this so called issue is so important to “the children” and the world?

The open minded free thinkers of this Blog who are willing to express and question what they have concluded based on their own research to be a scam is something you should try to open your mind to.

Learn and understand one of the basic natures of man; to acquire power. Some do it honestly and some do not. It just so happens that biopro is not being honest about their products. Now pat yourself on the back because you have taken your 1st step in truly contributing to “the children” by exposing the shallow argument used to further this scam.

July 27, 2007 3:46 PM  
Anonymous Simon said...

How about this argument - if the sticker blocks radiation coming from a phone, then how can you use the phone?

August 12, 2007 7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about magnetic products that claim to relieve pain and inflammatory conditions like arthritis...can it be argued that these products have no therapeutic value?
Maybe it has a placebo effect as mentioned previously. And if that's the case, then isn't that considered a therapeutic value.
I agree that unethical marketing is reprehensible, and get rich quick scams seem to be the 21st century occupations of the greedy few in our society. Hopefully these people will use thier new found wealth to discover a true remedy that will benefit mankind more than thier bank accounts.

August 19, 2007 1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a mixed martial artist I was intrigued by the claims substantiated by Biopro as to their P2R capsules. I have done a large amount of research in supplements, especially those that claim to enhance athletic performance. Unfortunately I found absolutely no scientific evidence The Prickly Pear Cactus or P2R should have any positive health benefits. Any references to any health claims I found were not done by any reputable hospital, doctor, or institution. After researching some of their other products , like the pendant, I have to say all of their "technology" amounts to quackery. Remember "feeling better" and having actual verifiable, measurable effects are two different things all-together. There are many scientific methods for measuring stress, physical performance etc.. Biopro does not have one legitimate study for any of their products that I could find. Please avoid this scam. I am committed to exposing them to the many athletes, professionals, and organizations I work with.

August 20, 2007 6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey martial artist...

I guess you “kicked yourself in the ass” (pun intended) over your biopro experience. But at a minimum, you figured out the scam and that’s the most important "awareness" and “protection” against this bogus EMF (Emotionally Manufactured Fraud) claims.

September 10, 2007 8:34 PM  
Blogger Stacy said...

I do have to point out that, while I'm not saying this product actually works, you are ripping it on false pretenses - tearing down an argument the company never makes, i.e. that it BLOCKS radiation. This is called the Straw Man Argument. Gericke makes a very good commentary on this. In the future, please aid in the effort to stop the propagation of half truths and misinterpretations by carefully researching the topic on which you are blogging.

This post is in no way meant to support the BioPro product, but to increase the amount of intelligent commentary on the web.

September 24, 2007 11:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow Stacy, talk about double speaking. You disclosing “you’re not saying the product actually works”? Then what’s the point of the product! And why do you think these blogs exist! Then you boldly double talk and state we are “ripping it on false pretenses”. What truth do you have to conclude our “false pretenses”? So you have exposed the fact that you too do not care if it works or not and just want to make money like the crooks that run the company and you want to have an “intellectual” conversation about a product that defies all “intellectual” common sense as well as lack of scientific intelligence.

Some use the term “block” and in a simple explanation, they are correct. Maybe not in the literal sense you’re insinuating they mean, 100% block, but yes it is a form of blocking. You have bought into biopro’s propaganda science which claims their product “reinforces your biofield” and what biopro is doing is skirting laws as well as reinforcing their “grey areas of truth” to avoid the word block because they know they can’t actually say that and their products are far from reinforcing anything but their “bottom line”. So it is a roundabout form of “blocking” – don’t you think?

And thank you for your attempt to increase everyone’s “intelligent commentary on the Web” – what would we do without the Web Police.

PS
Yes, I am snide about this because you have insulted EVERYONE’S intelligence with your uneducated elitist comment. Come back here with your own facts and science please and enlighten all of us for a new laugh!

October 02, 2007 2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOTICE TO ALL – WE WERE HACKED!
More evidence that Biopro is pushing a fraud on the public and that they will do anything including break the law ensure their success!

You may have noticed a previous site under the name "bioprotechnologyscam.com" and the blog "bioproscam.blogspot.com". Both were obviously revealing and damaging enough to cause this to happen so please take note of that. The domain name was ripped off and the blog was deleted. You can make up your own mind as to who might want to have it removed but we think all roads lead to Kansas, Toto.

We are back at http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/ and we will NOT be denied our rights! We will continue to alert the public of the company’s less than honest practices and continue to seek a complete shutdown of the company!

October 20, 2007 1:57 PM  
Blogger RL.Torrente said...

i'm sorry who ever you are for the small brain God gave you.

all of you that say Biopro is a scam you are completely WRONG!!!!...

i am a insider and in fact have never seen such a well run professionally run company...

i mean you guys are really crazy choosing to believe the multi trillion dollar cellphone industry over a company who sincerely is finding ways to help stop the pandemic....


in fact i know posting this wont change your minds, but all i knowis i've been with them and seen their work, its far more realistic than nay other FUCKING SHIT.

SO GO FUCK YOURSELFS YOU FUCKING INTELLECTUAL SCIENTISTS THAT HAVE STUDIED THE MATH ALREADY....GO BELIEVE THE FUCKING RICH BASTARDS THAT YOU BUY CELLPHONES ...

ONE DAY YOU'LL LOOK BACK WHEN PPL START GETTING TUMOURS AND SAY SHIT I SHOULD OF LISTENED TO BIO PRO.


cheers

October 22, 2007 2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHA!!!!

What more can be said from rl’s post.

Folks, now you can see just what type of people are working this company’s scam and believe it or not… this is an expression of just how the owners of this company think and feel as well. Towards the end of this persons post, the insanity just came right out and for what reason? Well, based on this person’s lack of logical/critical thinking to only mention two, it’s just the same thing you see from extremists in every facet of society.

See, what Biopro is creating here is hysteria all based on false science, reasoning and fraudulent products. It’s obvious that even the die hard pushers of the products and idea of Biopro know full well that none of this SHIT can be proved or they would not respond emotionally like this. But you can see that doesn’t matter. All that matters is you “just believe” without question. It really is as simple as that. No different than Jihadist extremists or the Timothy McVeigh’s of the world – they “just know” the truth and you should just accept.

I will attempt to counter here with bullets and reframe from name calling because I think the obvious insanity doesn’t really warrant much more of our time.

Counter points by paragraph:
- God may have given me a small brain but it seems to be working pretty damn good for its size - what does your personal attack say about yourself?
- Its obvious you’re an “insider” – this does NOT grant you credibility automatically or the company.
- (Refraining from calling you an idiot) – You have decided to invest your trust in a multi-millionaire Mr. Ray Grimm. A man that has started several companies (all failed) prior to Biopro and all companies with different product lines. All these companies lead up to Biopro, check its history. Seems to me like this man is doing exactly what the BIG EVIL cell phone companies are doing as well… become more rich! I am sure he will buy more $150K sports cars once you help him get there. Arent you too trying to become wealthy? That is one of the attractive Biopro sales pitches isn’t it? So what does that MAKE YOU! HAHAH! But you are exactly the type of person he needs to reach his goal no matter how fraudulent he must make it.
- Wow! A sign of intelligence! (Sorry for that, I could NOT resist the degrading comment) One can not change people’s minds with posts like this, lacking ANY intellectual facts or validity.
- The last two paragraphs need nothing to be said… but you are funny and possibly CRAZY. (Ok, I could not do this without some slams – but it does make it fun doesn’t it?) HAHAHAHA!!!!

October 22, 2007 9:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BIO PRO TECHNOLOGY IS A VIABLE COMPANY AND HAS BEEN FEATURED IN WOMENS WEAR DAILY NEWS, THE WHOLE WORLD TIMES AND SEVERAL SCIENTISTS AND CHEMISTS ARE SEEING THE ARISING ISSUES.

ITS SOLD IN 5 COUNTRIES AND THERE IS NO FRAUD OR SCAM TO THIS COMPANY AS YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE PRODUCTS AND THE COMPANY STRAIGHT ON THEIR WEBSITE AS IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

THE COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE INFOMERCIALS OR PETTY FLYERS. BIO CHEMIST'S AND SCIENTISTS KNOW MORE THAN YOU OR I, GIVE IT SOME TIME. NOBODY THOUGHT TO TELL PEOPLE SMOKING CAUSES CANCER UNTIL THEY WERE FORCED TO ANSWER. CELL PHONES WERE MADE FOR COMMUNICATION BUT HEALTH RISKS HAVE NOT BEEN STUDIED AS THE FCC DOES NOT REGULATE THE CORPORATIONS.

IF IT WAS A SCAM THE CO WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS AS IT IS CLEARLY NOT. I THINK SEVERAL OPINIONS CAN BE MADE BUT THE FACTS AND RESEARCH IS IN AND SEVERAL PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD IN SCIENCE ARE WRITING ABOUT THIS PRODUCT.

YOUR BODY IS MADE UP OF ENERGY CELLS THAT REACT AND FUNCTION WITH THE NERVOUS SYSTEM. EMF RADIATION DOES PENETRATE WETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE CELL GETS HOT, THE BRAIN DOES HEAT UP AS YOU PRESS THE CELL TO YOUR HEAD. DON'T YOU THINK ITS BETTER TO BE PRO ACTIVE THEN WAIT YEARS LATER WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE AND NOW. ITS YOUR CHOICE.

THERE MAY BE LOW EMF'S FROM A CELL BUT THE LONG TERM DAMAGE HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AS LAWSUITS ARE COMING ABOUT AND THE FACT THAT CELL COMPANIES ARE NOT REGULATED AS FAR AS HEALTH MAKES ME WANT TO BE PRO ACTIVE.

AFTER 50 YEARS OF STUDYING HOW THE MAMMOTHS AND OUR DINOSAURS DIED OFF, IN THIS YEAR OF 2007 THEY ARE FINALLY ABLE TO HAVE AN ANSWER AS SCIENTISTS HAVE DISCOVERED A METEOR WIPED OUT THE CLOVIS TRIBE AND HARD EVIDENCE HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED. WE ARE AT THE WHIM OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM AND IT TOOK THEM THIS LONG TO FINALLY COME TO THE CONCLUSION. TECHNOLOGY IS CONSTANTLY IMPROVING AND CHANGING THEREFORE ITS ALL A MATTER OF TIME.

CIAO BELLOS

October 23, 2007 12:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- Biopro is NOT a viable company; take a look at their corporate site www.actisglobalventures.com and click their stock symbol. Not even worth a penny! Sitting such rags is not convincing and of course several quack scientists would see an “arising” issue if it could at all pay off for them.

- Its NOT hard to open sites in other countries when Biopro sells their MLM franchise idea to a private investor. Biopro does NOT open these offices with their money – they are passing the risk on. Investigate for yourself as to how many countries they are no longer in.

- Your right! The co. does not pass out flyers – their annoying distributors do it! How do you know I am not a scientist myself and that my opinions about their products are not founded in as much fact Biopro self proclaims of their own products? If you suck in a large concentration of smoke into your lungs – cigarettes or otherwise – what kind of a moron does NOT know it could cause issues? Unless you’re just mentally retarded, common sense would tell you smoking is probably bad for you. The FCC does regulate cell phones – take a look at the sticker under your cell phones battery. They regulate ALL electronics in the U.S.

- IT IS A SCAM AND THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY TO BEING OUT OF BUSINESS. They are violating consumer protection laws design to help protect the public from scams!

- My head heats up when I press ANYTHING against it… including my hand - its simple physics! Haha… And no, I don’t think it’s intelligent at all to be proactive about something that has been around for enough years, already studied and deemed to be safe for the public by the FCC. What Biopro is NOT telling you is that the FCC (not the cell phone companies) have done extensive studies of cell phones – before and after the Dr. Carlo studies – and cell phones are safe. Do some of your own research on cell phone transmission, cell phone frequencies and cell phone power.

- Long term exposure to Biopro is far more dangerous to your health I can assure you that. And you can thank companies like Biopro and people like Dr. Carlo for creating a fraudulent hysteria to the point lawsuits are coming about. With these people and the outright selective hatred of corporate America it really is no surprise.

- I don’t know what you are talking about or how you’re trying to make a parallel in your last paragraph but you might want to lay off the dinosaur dung mushrooms. There is definitely not enough study about them to determine the safety but we are pretty confident they are causing people to become dumb. What we need is a meteor to wipe out stupid people and crooks.

October 23, 2007 2:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To follow up on biopro’s “viability” you may want to read this!

Go to: http://bankrupt.com/TCR_Public/050503.mbx
Scroll down to: FEM ONE: Losses & Deficit Prompt Going Concern Doubt in Form 10-K

October 23, 2007 9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, I'll simplify some things here. Let's approach this with logic only. We won't even need scientific data (because, as many of us in the field know, you can get almost any "outcome" you want by setting up your experiment "properly")

I'm not siding with the phone companies, for, as we know in this country, money is god, and anything can be passed as legal and safe if your lobby has deep pockets. (Just think pharmaceuticals)
And I'm definitely not siding with anything that sells through MLM... history shows that a product that works will sell itself.

That said, lets get to the heart of this. It is said these stickers harmonize with your bio field. Now let's say that's happening... My biofield emits a low frequency (which is obviously not harmful to me, since I am creating it). And this sticker harmonizes with it (like a tuning fork "harmonizes"). Now, we are both resonating at the same frequency, or at least complementary frequencies. At a minimum, there is no dissonance. (definition of harmonizing ... not my word choice, but biopro's).
How does this stop the cell phone's emf's from affecting me? Assuming the cell phone's frequencies are disruptive to mine... wouldn't they now be disruptive to the sticker's as well, since it is harmonized with me?
I am granting nothing more in this argument than what biopro's people are saying.

For a bit of logic applied to the emotional argument of "protecting" loved ones. What is worse-- thinking your cell phone might be harmful so you use it sparingly, or assuming your cell phone is now safe with a sticker on it and using it often? Not being able to guarantee with scientific evidence (testimonials and feelings are NOT scientific evidence) that the sticker is protecting anything, the penalty for losing that gamble is not worth the risk.

I understand the desire to feel safer... but do you want to feel safer without really being safer? When the fuel gauge in your car is on empty, you don't cover the gauge to fix the problem, you fill the tank.

And a message to the heads of biopro (not necessarily the distributors): You sleazy fuckers know that shit doesn't do what you claim. I'll bet your customers are using their stickered-phones more now than before because they feel safe, and, if cell phones cause all these health problems you claim, they will have tumors before anyone else because of your product, not despite it. May you douchebags be the first to reap the effects of your "science".

October 23, 2007 11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This last post has proved my own convictions wrong… there ARE some intelligent life on this planet!!!

Bravo! Bravo… very profound simple logic and constructed in a very logical manor. BRAVO!

I would like to just parallel with a little science and not so much that you have to be an engineer to understand. In the 1st paragraph of the post above, it is very true one can make any outcome and this is exactly what biopro is doing. There is no question about this especially if you were one of the 1st ones in the company as a distributor. You have watched this company create their own validity over a VERY short 3 year period. That’s just absurd!

2nd paragraph, money is God and it drives the free market. It can be used for good and bad. And its companies like biopro that forces “We the People” to create regulations for our own protection from bad… the scam artists like biopro.

3rd paragraph, going scientific now and this is KEY to the scientific facts! Let’s do say that biopro is pulling off this “charging” shit even though we in the science community know it’s absolutely impossible. Biopro is using only ONE frequency. ONE! Every single device like a phone, microwave, radio, etc… all must work on different frequencies. If they didn’t then they would all interrupt each other. You would not be able to stand near the microwave while on your cell. Now this is where it gets a bit complicated. Biopro admits that everyone has a biofield and that each one is unique. Amazing, just like microwave dishes! So we all have a unique frequency. They then say that the “charge” auto adjusts to your biofield, harmonizes with it and then reinforces it. Now THAT is fucking MAGIC! It is more amazing than finding one of the missing/unknown elements in the periodic table!!! Do you people understand the significance of this? If they have this kind of technology then we could harness it and only need our own biofield instead of a microwave dish to push all the unique frequencies in the world. Our cell phones could just “harmonize” according to our biofield and WALLA!

They have not created some kind of new “area 51” technology like they are trying to make people believe – they have just created a new “money really is God” MLM marketing scam!

You should also know that the great Doctor, Dr. Carlo, the so called expert that biopro places all their hope into doesn’t even know or CARE how biopro’s technology works. He’s even made the statement in meetings and this coming from the man that technically created the hysteria. Total blasphemy!

October 24, 2007 11:43 PM  
Blogger labman said...

I have been going round and round with my relatives and friends about this Biopro stuff for a while now I have been telling them it's all worthless overpriced junk but they are all wearing pendants drinking Iwater and wearing some sort of card which is supposed to heal anything you put it on my Mother in law sent an Email to her Biopro rep about the things I have been telling her about what I've read on the internet and this is the Email she received back from her and forwarded to me

Kathy,

Dr. George Carlo would not have risked his entire career to form an alliance with BIOPRO if our products did not work.

He has taken all kinds of abuse from researchers, scientists, politicians, etc. because we are a “network marketing company”, and
therefore, must be all bad.

I just finished a one hour phonecall with him this morning. If you knew some of the things he shared with me, it would blow John away.
These naysayers have no understanding of “energy medicine.” They have no inkling as to what the biofield in the body is.
They didn’t learn about it in school, and they have no desire to know anything about it.
All you can do is listen to your heart, and see the results people are getting with the products, such as the testimonial in your very email to me.
Most people deny things in the beginning, until the whole world is involved.
I am a pioneer. I prefer to protect myself now, not wait until 50 years from now when suddenly it will be announced that we were right.
The workshop I am having this weekend in Baltimore is all about moving the energy in the body.
John will not understand that, nor is he interested in learning about it.
He is not a pioneer. He is a follower. I am a leader. I bring it to the people. It’s there for the taking – or they can walk away.
For me the process of learning is on-going.
I don’t believe everything I see on the internet. I do believe Ray Grimm, Alfred Hanser, and Dr. George Carlo.
I do believe all the doctors who have joined our company because they believe in our technology.
I did my diligence for 9 months before leaving a very lucrative career in another company to join BiOPRO.
We could put John in front of Dr. Carlo, Alfred Hanser, and Ray Grimm, and he’ll read another negative item on the internet and he’ll be gone.
There are all kinds of research (some of which I have attached here), some of which is at www.bioenergeticsinstitute.com.
There are many books John could read.
Has he read anything besides what is on the internet?
Powerwatch has nothing to do with this company.
They have no idea what we do. And, if they do, until they have gone thru corporate and done their diligence, have tried and tested the products – they have no right to make negative comments.
Yet, John sat in the room and heard the testimonials, spent time listening and learning – read a comment by an organization he has no knowledge about, knows not their political involvement in the issue, and in five easy minutes decided they were right and we are wrong?
Show him the attached and at that point I would just stop trying to convince him.
By the way, Dr. Carlo said he is still waiting to hear from you folks with regard to the next move.
I explained that you can’t find a lab to provide certain things that he asked for.
He said you should call him.
Perhaps the best thing that can happen to John is to have Dr. Carlo visit.
My request is that you not let John’s negativity pull you down.
Listen to what’s in your heart.
If you need more information, we’ll try to get it for you.
John may eventually come around.
In the meantime, let’s you and Donna and I move forward.
Let’s be the leaders!
It was so nice to meet you, finally.
Such a pleasure.
GO FOR IT!

OK all that BS being said I have a friend who has a painful ankle I dont know whats wrong with it but he says it has hurt for some time anytime he trys to turn it so my mother in law gives him her "card" he puts it in his shoe and wears it and now he says the pain is gone now this guy has been making fun of this stuff the same as me and he is so tight he squeaks when he walks so I know he would never pay 1 cent for something he didnt think worked and now he says he's going to buy one can anyone give me any sensible explanation for this

October 31, 2007 8:39 AM  
Anonymous BIOPRO IS A SCAM said...

I can explain it… the mind has more power than the biopro products! John, this is the exact same bullshit testimonials all based on “feelings” instead of real science that has been heard time after time from people pushing this company. Mostly people that even your relative admits - really in it for the money instead of the facts – to the point they will give up a career. You tell me, is this about an amazing product? I would say hell yes! A product that will convince enough gullible people to give up a ton of money for a product that can only be proved with feelings.

On a side note observation, I would not be suppressed if you weren’t one of the clowns from biopro trying to defuse these sites and blogs which are definitely having an affect exposing their fraud. I don’t know for sure so I will assume the honest rout and engage your post.

Whether your story is true any more than proof that the biopro product fixed your friends issue, I can say that even a quack like Dr. Carlo can’t dispute the “mind over matter” factor. The answer is, it’s called the “placebo effect” and even drug companies that create REAL products called medicine to help us with headaches can’t explain why some that took a sugar pill cured their headache.

Kathy starts off in her 1st paragraph completely missing the point about George Carlo. I don’t even like calling him a Dr. because he’s a trial attorney first and foremost, that is his real intention here like any layer… to MAKE MONEY. The simple truth about this man is, he decided somewhere during his cell phone EMF studies that it would be more lucrative to side with “an issue” than prove that cell phones are safe for the cell phone companies. The motivation is pretty clear and then to team up with the larges scam artists in business, MLM, just seals the whole argument. And this is to Kathy; he has taken the abuse because he is saying there is an issue with NO REAL SCIENCE OR PROOF.

The rest of Kathy’s “biopro” indoctrinated rambling is a waste of time to address at this point since its obvious she is already sucking the nipple on the coo-laid bottle.

But there is one last thing to address from Kathy’s post and that is the whole “peer reviews” crap. The www.bioenergeticsinstitute.com which biopro and all its partners in crime (AKA: top level distributors) are touting. I will say this again, “biopro created these sites!” They are phony review sites create by the three criminals; Ray Grimm, Alfred Hanser (the man that spearheaded the project) and George Carlo (the man that is posting his own fraudulent reviews to it).

For more info: www.bioproisascam.blogspot.com

October 31, 2007 3:51 PM  
Blogger labman said...

No I am not a Schill for Biopro in fact I would like to hear some Anti-Testimonials about biopro but I am not sure my mother in law would believe them either she doesn't believe me she doesn't believe conventional medicine "they are all just trying to sell more drugs" she does not believe somebody on the internet who doesn't want anything from her but she will believe somebody who sells her a magic water machine for 900.00 or a pendant for 300.00 or a plastic credit card that will cure anything for 50.00 but she's not alone theres a few others I know who are the same so if there is anybody out there that has an anti-testimonial I sure would like to hear them

October 31, 2007 5:29 PM  
Anonymous biopro is a scam said...

Well labman, hope you didn’t think I was calling you a “schill”. But this is much more than just some “anti-testimonials” about biopro – this is about keeping our companies honest and protecting the public from scam artists like bipro. My previous post is fairly detailed and “anti” for you but most of all I hope it provides enough info to help you or your mother-in-law.

And in defense of her, she is right in a sense. It’s the “doctors” not the drug companies. The drug companies are just meeting demand… it’s the doctors that have become pill pushers. There are natural medicines that work and in most cases work better especially in the arena of “preventative” medicine. If people just took better care of themselves eating certain foods more than others then we would not need doctors and medicine as much.

But what biopro is doing goes into an arena of cancer which is not discriminating no matter HOW well you take or took care of yourself and the sad part is that it is such a sensitive area with people, specifically those directly affected, that biopro knows this and is outright capitalizing on it. And biopro does it in a way that is criminal because their products are just scams and frauds. It is this that takes it beyond just another MLM company selling herbs and it is at such an aggressive level that can not be ignored.

It’s a new era my friend and we all have more power than the union days or laws – we now have the World Wide Web and we can put these losers to task. These elitist despise modern technology because the little people like you and I can now call them to task. In fact, biopro actively trys to stop people like you and I just like Red China. Take the time and read the blog bioproisascam.blogspot.com you may find more info you can use.

October 31, 2007 8:32 PM  
Blogger THE BIG BIOPRO MLM SCAM! said...

Biopro loses another relationship holding money over validity! Its in with the new doctor, out with the old! It appears biopro has made Dr. Carlo walk the plank!

For old followers, former distributors that have been disenfranchised by biopro or have learned the truth, who wish to see justice as well as those that might be reading this blog and thinking of getting involved with this scam company biopro you will want to read this. http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/

November 16, 2007 11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/ blog is a great! Please keep putting up more common sense science and if you can please use more science to expose this company and their scam so no one else is taken to the ringer as I was. Your question of why they are MLM and why they didn’t do a secret deal with the cell companies makes so much sense! Keep up the great work and I hope the government would do their job and regulate this company and all MLM’s.

December 10, 2007 4:13 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF) is the most dangerous thing to wellness. We say that biopro’s greed for money is the most dangerous thing to wellness with a bogus & fraudulent product! said...

Weare back!http: http://www.bioprotechnologyisascam.com

January 01, 2008 3:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let me get this right, they are a “wellness” company not an “emf hazardous solutions company” and product and they are only sold through MLM. Do these people think we are so stupid that even with all their patenting and so called credibility via universities “studying” this technology that we would dish out hundreds of dollars for a “wellness” product? Man, I am in the wrong business! I could just create a cancer prevention pill and SAY it “shields” those elements in nature that cause cancer and make millions of dollars. AND, if I hide behind the MLM structure I would get away with it! Isn’t this just like the one dollar scam that was on the Net way back in the 90’s?

January 21, 2008 2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a BIOPRO Independent consultant however never really started a business with it because I needed to convince myself that it worked as well.

Anyway, long story short. BIOPRO made some claims relating to a successful Doctor researcher from Germany. Sadly, his name escapes me. I managed to track him down via a German friend. It turned out that he was merely the equivalent of a naturopath in a small village/city.

I purchased a HOME HARMONISER at about $300 AUD. I asked headquarters for back up to justify the claims of countless flawless testimonials. Their responses were evasive and eluded to - it's a secret so we're not going to tell you how it works. As you can imagine, at $300 the average person isn't going to start pulling it apart. Well not me, fed up with my questions not being answered I dismantled this technology....to find a moulded plastic cover with an odd shaped bit of copper attached to a plug. How can this amazing invention prevent or reduce EMF exposure. I have photos to prove this and encourage anyone who has one to dismantle it...you will be astounded at what you discover....NOTHING!

www.safewireless.org has publicly distanced themselves from BIOPRO and broken of their strategic alliance. This speaks volumes and their open letter realting to this is eye opening. I'm just sorry I wasted two years researching this and lost a little bit of money.

February 06, 2008 9:33 AM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

We at bioprotechnologyisascam.com have suspected since late 2007 with Carlo’s disappearing act along with Lynda’s and other very highly promoted, used, abused then disregarded individuals; biopro is using people and investors for their own pure and simple greed. Biopro has funneled thru their company many people both spokes people as well as employees all of which do not have a single good thing to say about the management, the products or the company as a whole and now it is confirmed.

We also have seen the inside of their products, all of them, but one product we would like to have the internal image of is the harmonizer. Please send a copy of it to: bioproisascam@gmail.com

As we posted on our blog, 2008 WILL BE THE YEAR OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BIOPRO!

February 08, 2008 5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I purchased a pendant and then
a crystal, both were totally useless.

Now after my bad experience. I'm going to test everything with a Gauss
meter first before wasting my money.

Althought emf, I believe does exist, I first started complaining about its
effects 21 years ago. I can calibrate myself with a gauss meter.

There is only one so far, that works for me. LDPE on my computer screen. I want to try next a graham stetser filter and then maybe a strong high power Schumann device.

February 10, 2008 8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was having a problem with pain in my laptop mouse finger. It really ached. I got a biopro chip put it on my laptop and the pain went away. I actually bought mine on ebay, did not pay full price as I wanted to test the device before paying full price. Well, it worked.
Delaware

February 15, 2008 2:49 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

Do as the February 06 poster did – break it open and look inside. There is nothing there. In fact, look at our blog (http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com) we have opened one of those “chips” (aka: plastic biopro marketing disk) for you and posted the images to that blog to show the whole world and yourself what a scam these products and biopro is. What you have experienced can only be characterized as a phenomenon called the “placebo effect”. All the biopro products have been extensively tested and inspected by several scientists and there is literally nothing special inside these products. They are just flat out a Multi Level Marketing/Pyramid scam and a crime that you paid anything for a product from biopro.

February 16, 2008 1:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to be a non believer as well.A couple of years ago my wife used to get headaches after talking on her cell phone for too long. A friend of hers gave her a chip and it definitely helped. Personally, I wasn't as sensitive as her. I didn't really have any adverse effects from my cell phone use, but when she got me a chip I did notice my phone didn't get nearly as hot when I talked for long periods of time. What really convinced me,however, was when I tried Biopro's Iwater. My wife got a machine(against my wishes) and I thought she was crazy. Water is water, right? After a couple of weeks of drinking the water,however, I felt amazing. I haven't had this much energy and felt this good since I was a kid. I don't understand the technology, but I don't need to. I FEEL GREAT!!! I'm so glad my wife twisted my arm to use their products. I thought it made no sense. I thought she was wasting our money, but I was wrong.I don't know how, but Biopro's products definitely work. What's sad is that most of the people putting down Biopro at this site have probably never even tried any of their products. Don't get me wrong, I was very skeptical as well and probably would never have tried the products if it weren't for my wife. I'm so glad I gave the products a try, they've made such a positive difference in my life. As far as whether or not cell phone radiation is harmful, I don't really know. I do know, however, that tobacco,lead and abestos(spelling?) were once considered safe. Years ago scientist and our government would have basically said " theirs no proof" that smoking damages the body for example.

February 24, 2008 5:05 AM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

First of all, it’s all about “feeling”. This is such a joke! Never mind the technology is a fraud because if I subliminally believe a widget makes me FEEEEEL better then that’s all that matters. You have fallen for the biopro cool aid! Now let me take some points off your post and inject some “thought” and “reality”.

1. “I did notice my phone didn't get nearly as hot when I talked for long periods of time”
A. Technically this is absolutely impossible. Take their chip apart and tell us what you find inside. Better yet, got to our blog and view for yourself what they are putting inside. We have even opened their larger “chip” not their tiny cell phone chip to expose as much of the ingredient as possible. There is NOTHING IN THERE! http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com

2. ” Water is water, right? After a couple of weeks of drinking the water,however, I felt amazing. I haven't had this much energy and felt this good since I was a kid.”
A. Another biopro scam which claims what many “water changing” MLM’s have claimed for years in an all new package and description. Only this time, an MLM company willing to stretch the terms of science and logic in a strategic convoluted marketing manor so you give up on understanding the science and totally rely on “feeeelings”… exactly what they are gambling on. The science is not understandable because it’s a FRAUD. In most cases, anyone without a scientific background can attend any science seminar about anything science and you can walk away with a basic understanding of the disseminated information. Why don’t you try this, try heating up some water to boiling point in a microwave – a similar “agitation” source as biopro’s iWater scam – then place it in the fridge till cool. Drink this water for a few weeks and see if you get a similar result.

3. “I thought it made no sense. I thought she was wasting our money, but I was wrong.”
A. No, your first instinct was correct and normally is for all of us. You should have stuck with that and saved yourself a ton of money as well as not empower this rich elitist Ray Grim and his partners in crime.

4. “What's sad is that most of the people putting down Biopro at this site have probably never even tried any of their products”
A. Your assumption is wrong. As you can plainly see on our blog we have the products, we tried them and we tested them. Their science just does NOT add up.

5. “As far as whether or not cell phone radiation is harmful, I don't really know”
A. So you don’t know BUT you are willing to plop down hundreds of dollars on a product you can not prove work except from your “feelings”. Where is the logic in that? I equate this to the Global Warming insanity. The scientific community can not say for absolute if humans are “the” cause or even contributing to global warming or even if there is global warming or if it’s actually cooling. So like biopro the know it alls say, “just in case, lets change our fuels, how we live and the cars we drive which in turn causes the price of everything to go up in price including and our taxes to increase all based on (just in case)?” Am I the only one that sees the insanity in this?

By the way, what happen to those biopro nuts that were demonizing the “RICH LARGE CELL PHONE COMPANIES”? Has anyone seen the parking lot of $150 thousand dollar Lamborghini collection Ray Grimm owns? Have you seen the home he owns? Is biopro and Ray Grimm not one of these “RICH LARGE COMPANIES” getting richer off people that buy into this scam? I guess “feelings” trump common sense.

February 25, 2008 3:22 PM  
Blogger Jackiesglitter said...

Okay, here is what I figured out. I bought a Biopro Cell Phone Harmonizer Chip on ebay for around $20.00 AND I bought six Safeguard EMF harmonizer on ebay from the "Biopro Store". Then I bought a simple EMF detection meter. I walked all around my house with the meter and it worked just as one would think...lighting up red alert when getting within six inches of an electrical source including the cell phone and the portable phone. Then I put on the Safeguard device on one of our cell phones and a BioPro chip on another one...the $2.00 Safeguard chip had no effect...I got the red light when within inches of the phone...the Biopro Cell chip worked! it was green all the way to the phone...so do a little bit of investigating before you call it a fraud...you may be responsible for people NOT using the chip and getting brain cancer or tumors...did you think about that???

February 25, 2008 6:05 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

Ok, so you ran a gauss meter through your home and got a response and then applied the biopro chip and got a different response – does that prove anything? No it does not. First of all, you’re trying to do what biopro does and associate your home and cell phones EMF to a “problem” but that in itself is the reall problem because there is no such association.

Read this: http://www.usinspect.com/EMF/EMF.asp

About your gauss readings, as an Electrical Engineer I can personally attest to you that not all gauss meters are the same and the vast differences in results according to the application is very large. For instance, we have a large computer room we use to crunch numbers for research. There are two most common types of meters; “single axis meters” which is probably what you’re using since they tend to be more affordable for “general” use and “tri-axis meters” which is most common for scientists such as a setting I work in and are very expensive. The difference a huge – the single axis meter will typically be less accurate especially in a home since the electrical currents in your home are unstable and inconsistent.

For instance, you can measure the same power outlet 10 times and receive 10 different readings from your gauss meter – it’s not consistent and should never be used for scientific study or research. In your case and biopro’s case, it’s used to ALARM people FALSELY. Biopro’s products have been extensively tested in our laboratory with our own single axis as well as our six-axis meters. There were conclusively no patterns of positive results favoring the application of a biopro chip. Out of 30 samples we could only collect a total of 7 drops in gauss. We also had an amps meter on our power outlet and measured small drops or fluctuations in power which attributed to the 7 drops. With the six-axis meter, which is much more accurate and sensitive, there were zero counts of drops also with a biopro chip present.

But the real point here is the level of EMF coming from a given outlet or item such as a cell phone. They are extremely small and insignificant to the human body. Humans naturally create more static electricity than what your average cell uses to stay powered on. This is visible under controlled measurement and shows up like the doctored biopro “bio-field” images which they talk about in an extremely bastardized manor.

February 26, 2008 11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this blog and exposing the biopro scam...I went to a seminar last night given by feng shui "experts" who were lecturing on the dangers of emf's. I suffer from fibromyalgia and was ready to buy the Biopro chips and pendants but thought I'd do a little internet research first. Its disgusting that this company is preying on those that are in pain and need any type of relief. Keep up the good work. You are helping people. One question...do you know anything about the Graham Stetzer Filters. Do they work? many thanks again.

February 29, 2008 12:23 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

You are welcome and it’s good to hear that even being inflicted with your issue thoughts are not clouded by emotion because that is exactly what they are gambling on at biopro. We have heard about Graham Stetzer but are not informed enough to guide you.

I can tell you though that acupuncture seems to have had the most positive results out of all forms of potential solutions. As an Electrical Engineer I would assume, since I am not a doctor but understand that the body has its own electrical charge, there may be a link between nerves, the brain and a disconnect between them somehow. Maybe they can be “re-wired” via acupuncture. Give it a shot; what do you have to lose.

February 29, 2008 3:18 PM  
Blogger Jackiesglitter said...

But how do you measure what effect acupunture is having? At least with
an EMF meter showing red/green and yellows in between the results are
demonstrated instantly...how do you measure the results of an
acupunture treatment in regards to EMF pollution? You feel good?

I really don't have a good solution through acupuncture since I'm not a
practitioner or a consumer of the technique...I'm just someone who is
concerned about EMF and have an EMF testing meter that appears to work.
Simple testing such as I did is available to anyone with an
interest...I just bought two more Biopro chips...my grandson is on the
phone with his girlfriend endlessly and I keep thinking that his brain
is slowly getting fried...that is why I went through the expense of
buying my own EMF meter and checking out Biopro for myself, along with
another chip that didn't work...And if the meter is working and it
appears to be working...(as in red when pointed at an electrical device
such as a cell phone and green when pointed to all other non-electrical
devices)...then it shows that the Biopro chip works...according to the
EMF meter! I don't know what more to say...somehow the meter is
picking up that the cell phone is not emitting the same EMF as it was
without the chip...I suppose because the chip is harmonizing the cell
phone's EMF...
--- Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most
dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro?s the most
bogus & fraudulent MLM in history!

March 01, 2008 7:13 PM  
Blogger Jackiesglitter said...

But how do you measure what effect acupunture is having? At least with
an EMF meter showing red/green and yellows in between the results are
demonstrated instantly...how do you measure the results of an
acupunture treatment in regards to EMF pollution? You feel better? That isn't enough for me.

I really don't know enough about acupuncture since I'm not a
practitioner or a consumer of the technique...I'm just someone who is
concerned about EMF and have an EMF testing meter that appears to work.
Simple testing such as I did is available to anyone with an
interest...I just bought two more Biopro chips on ebay...my grandson is on the
phone with his girlfriend endlessly and I keep thinking that his brain
is slowly getting fried...that is why I went through the expense of
buying my own EMF meter and checking out Biopro for myself, along with
another chip that didn't work, as I mentioned earlier...And if the meter is working then it looks like the chip is working too. And the chip appears to be working because the EMF meter shows red when pointed at an electrical device
such as a cell phone and green when pointed to all other non-electrical
devices. Thus also, the meter reads green with the chip on the cell phone and red when the chip is not on the cell phone. I don't know what more to say...the meter is
clearly indicating that the cell phone is not emitting the same EMF as it was
without the chip...I suppose because the chip is harmonizing the cell
phone's EMF...

March 01, 2008 7:29 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

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March 02, 2008 3:24 AM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

Ask yourself your own question about biopro… how do you measure their products? Against what? They have no controlled studies but their own. Biopro is NOT an FDA, FTC or any sort of Federally approved product. As we have stated in the previous post, a gauss meter is not an accurate test device for EMF, especially with the type of gauss meter biopro uses. Biopro uses a single axis meter – not exactly a scientific device for study in the area of EMF.

You said it yourself; “I really don't have a good solution through acupuncture since I'm not a practitioner or a consumer of the technique...I'm just someone who is concerned about EMF and have an EMF testing meter that appears to work”.

You make another statement…; “my grandson is on the
phone with his girlfriend endlessly and I keep thinking that his brain
is slowly getting fried...” and our question to you is, don’t you think he would “feel” this accruing? The brain is the most volatile and “sensitive” organ in the human body. It contains all the connections to all the nerve endings through-out the human body and provides all the electrical connectivity. Don’t you think the brain would give a signal to him that it was being destroyed or hurt in some way? I know that when I drink too much my brain tells me. I take aspirin and it alleviates the swelling caused by drinking. There are always a symptom to the issue and in most cases a solution but in the case of biopro, they seem to be creating a symptom to their own issue, hence the SCAM.

You seem to be caught up in the “diagnostics”. You’re using a single axis gauss meter and like we have pointed out, that is not an acurate measure for the issue. I have run a single axis gauss meter through my computer room, several servers, backup power units and morte than average wiring in the room multiple times. Every time I have a vastly different result. Most of the time I do not measure anything, no loud noises from the meter to “alarm me”, so what does that tell you? To me it means EMF is not a steady threat. It is not the threat biopro is making it out to be. It’s like saying the earths gravity causes our body weight to change so we adjust our doctors recommended diet based on what… our position around the sun? Well in essence that’s true because our weight “technically” should be factored into the earth’s gravity! If you measure the gravity of the earth, most of the time its 3.257 G’s but not consistantly. Sometimes its 3.125 or 3.227 – depending on the earth’s rotation around the sun. This does not dismiss our weight problem – it only covers it up and convolutes it to make us “feel better”. This is exactly what biopro is doing, if that makes sense. Sometimes I get a little abstract and out there, I apologize. But if you REALLY think about it, it does make sense.

You make another statement… “I don't know what more to say...somehow the meter is picking up that the cell phone is not emitting the same EMF as it was
without the chip...” and what I am telling you is that your “testing device” is NOT accurate. There are so many physic variables involved with that device that it is impossible to explain in a bog. Let me try to give another example without being too abstract. Have you ever seen a “water finder”? It’s just a wishbone metallic barb that some claim to find water underground where it’s not visible. But if you dig you will find water where it points too. It’s not consistent by any means, so if you were dyeing of thirst you would die before you found water using this technique. Why would you place all your money, weight and gold in a device that can not save your life? Apparently you would.

You then go on to say; “the chip is harmonizing the cell phones emf…”. I would ask, “In undoubtedly scientific terms, explain “harmonization” against EMF and how that balances or equals out EMF from a cell phone or EMF device.” Unless you can provide proof as in scientific evidence through standardized testing via the FCC, FDA or FTC – you are just grabbing at straws like biopro and trying to sell something you hope will make you healthey and rich at the same time. You have been convinced that biopro is “cutting edge” and their ahead of the curve. This is the oldest MLM/Pyramid trick in the book and good intentions does not justify the ends.

As for acupuncture, I have no means to measure the results to EMF as I stated to the post. I am throwing that out there as a “more” tested solution just like biopro is throwing out their products as a solution. If you want to play in the area of “grey” then you don’t know if the chip is working anymore than I know acupuncture would work, thus making my point OH so accurately. After all, you stated yourself that with the biopro chip you “felt better” but yet you’re going to question the “feeling” of EMF relief through acupuncture? Stop drinking the coo laid and wake up! MLM is not going to make you rich anymore than Al Gore is going to solve Global Warming.

Why are you so willing to place all your eggs in one basket, biopro, of what “appears” to work for you based on feelings? Do you see your own hypocrisy?

And FYI…
You are buying the chips “illegally”. Biopro prohibits the sale of their products via any other source other than a distributor OR directly from their site if you read their rules. I would suggest that if you REALLY think this crap is working for you, then the placebo effect is more real that we have ever thought and you should gobble it up! You are getting the products from a former distributor on eBay whom has learned what I am trying to tell you, they don’t work, and is dumping their inventory on the public. So you’re getting it at a HUGE discount and therefore should snap up as much as possible. But please contact us in 6 to 12 months when the problem still persists and tell us we were right. After all, we all have egos and LOVE to gloat about being right, just like biopro.

March 02, 2008 3:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are afraid of change but Bio Pro is a well backed company. Nasa buys their water system, stars are endorsing their products and it has been proven by scientists that we have two biomagnetic fields to protect as our nervous system and the aura which combines with our naturally atoms and energy does exchange. research before you make assumptions without merit. Bio Pro is here to stay as a pro active company to protect the human body and if you realize that cell phone companies are not regulated in concerns to health then you should be aware that no one is looking out for your health and wellness. You may check out my website as I too am a bio pro consultant and proud to be a part of this company
www.mybiopro.com/destressemf

I have swimmers ear and ear, nose and throat issues and I use bio pro on my computer and mobile devices and I do not feel the heat, have headaches and less stress because of it. There is a huge difference when the chip is not on the phone. I am a prime example.

March 04, 2008 10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are afraid of change but Bio Pro is a well backed company. Nasa buys their water system, stars are endorsing their products and it has been proven by scientists that we have two biomagnetic fields to protect as our nervous system and the aura which combines with our naturally atoms and energy does exchange. research before you make assumptions without merit. Bio Pro is here to stay as a pro active company to protect the human body and if you realize that cell phone companies are not regulated in concerns to health then you should be aware that no one is looking out for your health and wellness. You may check out my website as I too am a bio pro consultant and proud to be a part of this company
www.mybiopro.com/destressemf

I have swimmers ear and ear, nose and throat issues and I use bio pro on my computer and mobile devices and I do not feel the heat, have headaches and less stress because of it. There is a huge difference when the chip is not on the phone. I am a prime example.

March 04, 2008 10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are not afraid of change in case you have not been watching the latest platforms from presidential candidates and the massive support behind their “change”.

People are afraid of MLM evangelists like you and corrupt people who run companies like BIOPRO spouting off about things which can’t be explained only “believed” works. I believe in God and even if I created a church with millions of followers it doesn’t mean God exists nor could I ever prove God exists! Therefore you’re just working off of blind faith in medicine and science and that is NOT acceptable. Some of us have real issues with EMF and we are all tired of the magnets, lights and every other crap product science that claims to help!

What this blog as well as many other blogs are warning people of is that an MLM pyramid scheme is not a legitimate solution to this issue. Just as it is clearly explained on the bioproisascam.blogspot.com page “why sell a product through an MLM company”? MLM’s are well known for their ability to sell just about anything and BIOPRO is a perfect example. I was scammed by BIOPRO as a former consultant, none of their products worked and I was denied a refund! They are a SCAM through and through!!!

March 04, 2008 3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

iWater is so great that NASA wants it? Post the letter from NASA! Lets see proof besides these wild claims!

Stop bullshitting people with your outlandish statements biopro! Put up or shut up!

Biopro has found a way to miraculously take (one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms) and re-configure them with a store bought laser light and a vibrator into “miracle water”? I am convinced these people are insane and the people who can not possibly understand the level of fraud here, the distributors, are more insane.

Again, another outrageous scam!

March 04, 2008 5:35 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

We can’t agree more to the posts refuting the NASA claim by biopro. This is obviously another claim in a series of bio-propaganda.

NASA is a HUGE organization with millions of both full-time, part-time employees and volunteers. These people range from Liberal Global Warming nuts as well as Far Right anti global warming nuts. It is not a surprise biopro “might” have found one of the two extremes to make a supporting statement in their favor.

“This does not mean NASA wants biopro’s technology”.

Biopro has failed to provide any proof of this on their site. And I would also say that even if they produced a letter, I can guarantee you NASA (the organization) would investigate this company’s claim and unanimously dismiss their water product as a non provable science. As a whole, NASA is not “yet” controlled by nuts and does not fly into space based on grey area science.

More proof this company will do ANYTHING to push a Pyramid Scheme because really, this is the ONLY science they know.

March 08, 2008 4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was invited to a BIOPRO recruiting meeting by a friend. I love this person but I don’t always agree with them and in this case after hearing this companies wild eyed leftist style recruiting techniques I had to do some Internet searches to gather some evidence that the company was a scam. After I heard one of the companies’s executives I think by the name of Alfred compare EMF to Global Warming I knew just what kind of crazed crowed I was surrounded by and the type of company this was. Global Warming is a new cause to tax Americans to death thru carbon credits just like BIOPRO is using EMF to sell a scam product. These Communist SOB’s will just stop at nothing to exploit people and unfortunately I have lost yet another friend.

PS
Global Warming’s scam is also coming to the surface in the new and press FINALY! Here is proof: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/10/nipcc_manhattan_declaration

March 10, 2008 12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Snort! Please don't get ME started on Global Warming. Anyone notice the RECORD cold this year? www.iceagenow.com
The arctic, yes, the arctic that was "screaming last summer" according to the Gore crowd has now refrozen at a record rate. Poor old polar bears are starving now that they have to walk even farther to get to the ice shelf.
Ever heard of TSI? Total Solar Irradiance? It's the one factor that determines our earths temperature, not anyones carbon footprint. Jeez the arrogance of man...

March 11, 2008 3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, so the Internet is not full of stupid people. Thanks for the “TSI” education and after searching the Net for more info I have now learned something new I can use to combat the misguided people about this GW scam. However somehow I think I will still be speaking on deaf ears because they don’t want to hear they have been wrong. Just closed minded people or people with an agenda that’s all. Yes, when you try to hold up your product or service based on a bogus idea it is probably something to steer away from. Thanks for the great forum!

March 13, 2008 3:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is not mentioned here is that if BioPro truly blocked or "harmonized' the EMF fields, then wouldn't the cell phone signal be interrupted in some way?

As for those who think muscle testing or kinesiology is a scam, I know several M.D.'s who swear by it.

You have to think: Why can your arm resist pressure when holding one substance, but then weakens dramatically when testing another?

March 14, 2008 6:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH yes, GREAT scientific testing method. And when my proctologist asks me to open my mouth I should just assume he knows what he’s doing and do it? This is all just a new age version of 60’s B.S. and one mans ability to exploit stupid people for his own personal gain.

March 18, 2008 1:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at what is inside a biopro home harmonizer...if you think it works then you might as well burn your money.

http://bioprohomeharmonizerhoaxwhatsinsideit.blogspot.com/

Photos included in the above blog.

March 26, 2008 7:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody close to me is selling that chip, I never believed him. Can a piece of plastic neutraliza electromagnetic fields? I know that Faraday Cage do, but it will cut all communications to your cell phone.

March 27, 2008 12:34 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

Thank you very much for the home-scamonizer image!

We have seen inside one before but never had a picture. Just amazing isn’t it? This company is just an absolute outrage!

March 28, 2008 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are absolutely correct about the Faraday Cage project point. You would have to cage yourself in to avoid EMF and that would defeat your ability to a safe form of EMF, your cell phone. People have worked in and around EMF for power companies for years; they walk into those huge power plants you can see from the road with huge transformers. Why is there no report of an “epidemic” in the news about the people that work in these areas? Biopro is a scam… EMF from modern equipment is safe and at very safe levels.

April 12, 2008 12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the BioPro has helped my health tremendously. Before I bought one for my cell phone, I was experiencing a burning pain on my right side where I kept the cell phone in it's case. The pain came around particularly at night while I was sleeping. I atarted wearing the cell phone on my left side and the pain transferred to my left and stopped on my right. I was freaked out. I had some friends who told me about the BioPro and I figured I needed to give it a try. Once I put the chip on the back of my cell phone, I started noticing a difference within a few days. My sides were no longer hurting, and when I talked on the phone, I did not feel dizzy or tired afterward. So far, I am standing by this chip and I have noticed it's benefits. Also, when I talk on cellular or portable phones that do not have the biopro attached, I almost instantly notice the difference. I talked on a regular poratble phone for about 45 minutes, and felt pain in my head, jawbone, neck, and ear. It was at this time that I wished I had used a land line or my cell phone with the BioPro. After this last incident, our family may chose to buy more for our portable phones particularly. If we get some more, and they help, I will post another comment to let you know. Many of you out there may think this is the placebo effect, but I think not. I have experienced the positive health benefits and will stand by BioPro until further notice.

April 14, 2008 6:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does the chip cost $30?

I'll tell you why. People associate price with quality. If the chip was $1, then everyone would think that it is a cheap piece of crap - which it really is.

Make no mistake though. This company is making all of its money by the $2,000 that it costs to "get started." What a fucking joke. I feel very sorry for those who fall for this shit.

I cant wait until the class action firms start suing biopro. The owners are probably paying themselves all of the profits in the form of executive compensation. That way, when the empire does fall, there will be no assets to pay off those who have been screwed.

April 15, 2008 12:32 AM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

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April 15, 2008 4:25 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

I’m not even going to get into a long response to the cool aid drinking “I’m going to get rich selling this scam product” distributor OR biopro employee clown above but I will give them a hint. Your ear heats up because you’re placing something on it moron!

To the $30 poster, man you have nailed it! 1st, we are working on getting a Federal Investigation of this company. 2nd, you nailed is because there are approximately 15 people working in the corporate building and more than ½ are “executives” as well as all family! So yes, you’re right that all the money is staying at the top and in their back pockets which is also why we are pushing for the Feds to also go after the “owners” personally to pay back everyone that has been scammed.

Thank you for being observant, we need more people like yourself in this world.

April 15, 2008 4:27 PM  
Blogger Olivier said...

I think there is a threat with the EMF.
I think they can cause cancer or other diseases.
This mean that Wifi, Mobile phone, DECT phone, cell phone tower, high tension power line, or other radio and TV transmitters are a hazard for not only our health but as well for the wildlife.
Sure, they have been there for ages, especially TV transmitters.
Sure, electricians have been working on those power line for years.
But never before you would have been exposed to them 24h/7 like today.
I understand nor the government, nor companies paying taxes to government and selling their products to us would tell us what they know; They would rather hide it from us.
That's one think.

The other think is trusting a company selling products claiming to remedy from this pollution. If it's true that $30 can save you from this, that's great, as $30 is nothing compare. On the other hand, giving $30 to a scam company is a risk I cannot take.

April 23, 2008 5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You “think” but you don’t know and so you would rather fuel a company’s scam that pray’s on lazy individuals like yourself who would rather make a buck rather than doing some in depth investigating of your own to find out the truth.

That makes a lot of sense!

What this really sounds like is that you are a distributor with more interest in making money from what you see, just as biopro does, an easy money maker based in fear of the general publics unknown. You would rather make money from a falsehood than find out the truth and hold companies accountable. Only when a company fits YOUR agenda does it make them good and just in contrast to the “evil cell phone corporations”.

Oliver, all companies are the same and they all have one objective in mind – make money to stay in business. I say cell phone companies have a much more legit business model as they provide a very useful product we can all use to better our lives. Biopro on the other hand is ONLY in business to make money whether the product works or not. Their product can not be proved or they too would be a legit company, not an MLM. This company is just greedy. They created the business in an MLM structure exactly for max profit, period. Study MLM structures and you would be astounded at how easy it is to make millions without having a real product. This is why herbs are sold via MLM – there is not Government oversight. A product you just need to “convince” people that work not prove they work.

The government is compromised in many ways and in many ways can not be trusted to do the right thing on behalf of the people. If they could be relied on, biopro would not exist today. But to lend the government so much credibility and power that they could cover up cell phone dangers is crazy!

After all the investigations that have been conducted via our free press and private individuals, the absolute conclusion is man made EMF is perfectly safe. Power lines, if standing directly under one, emits less EMF than a small battery. The best part about man made products; they get better and better over time. Batteries are smaller today using less power to and soon you won’t even need a batter to run your laptop with kinetic motors. Telephone lines are going fiber optic and under ground – another great man made solution to snuff out this stupid biopro scam.

Final thought for you; there is more EMF hitting the planet from a small Sun burst than all the man made EMF ever created. And unlike our cell phones, the Suns radiation is ionizing radiation! So start digging your hole in the ground but don’t dig too far cause the Earths core is also send EMF to the surface and you don’t want to get too close to it!

April 26, 2008 5:51 PM  
Blogger Olivier said...

Yes, you are right, the sun is creating more EMF that all man made has ever done. The thing is it doesn't show on a Gaussmeter.
Mobile, power line, DECT phone, Wifi does but not the sun.

"You “think”"
Yes, I think, because if I don't think I'll believe than tobacco is safe for too long. Or I'll believe that Hexafluorosilicic Acid put into your tap water by your government is safe. If I don't think for myself, who else is going to care for me when so much money is involved.

For which mobile phone company are you working for?

I even don't know if you even took care of reading what I wrote before going on writing a book. Have you read "On the other hand, giving $30 to a scam company is a risk I cannot take" or is it that you couldn't understand the message?
Or maybe you only hear from one ear?

Who do you think is going to advertise people who got brain cancer because of mobile phone?
If I think, it isn't out of the blue.

My philosophy is that if it isn't proven safe it should not be used. I eat good food because it's proven safe and even beneficial for health.
I don't some don't care about their health. I'm ain't one of them.

Have a good life Pal.

April 26, 2008 10:44 PM  
Blogger Biopro claims electro pollution (aka: EMF or EMR) is the most dangerous thing in the 21st century. We say that biopro’s the most bogus & fraudulent MLM in history! said...

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April 27, 2008 1:31 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

Read our blog Oliver, the Gauss meter is a joke in the application biopro is using it. There is a reason it can not detect the type of radiation coming from the Sun – it can not detect “ionizing” radiation. It only picks up on “non-ionizing” radio waves which is about the lowest level of radiation you can possibly be exposed to and is 100% safe. Scientifically, radio waves are not “radiation” and should not be called radiation. So the Gauss meter is by no means a real scientific devise for use to show or prove anything in the context that biopro is twisting the application.

Yes, I read your whole post and all we are trying to do is emphasize not falling for it. Based on how I understood your post/s, it sounded as though you were supporting biopro and/or edging in that direction which in our opinion is a grave mistake. I should have explained that, my mistake.

April 28, 2008 3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ha - they are strying to sell at my company today

May 08, 2008 12:44 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

What company? And why are they there?

May 09, 2008 4:51 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

GEORGE CARLO ABANDONS BIOPRO!

Everyone reading this blog might be interested in bioproisascam.blogspot.com newest post. The total melt down and exodus from biopro by not just distributors and vendors but also by their most important alliance relationships like George Carlo. The one man that could have been biopro's one and only credible verification source to their bogus technology. If any one could have blurred the truth about biopro, made their scam sound lagitamate Carlo could have been the one. Now he is running from biopro as fast as he can.

May 13, 2008 4:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There IS exact information about exactly how ANOTHER harmonizer works, if you'd care to learn how "harmonizing" occurs. However, I do NOT say that all the harmonizers out there use the real technology found with this particular Norwegian harmonizer. Read about it at: http://www.harmonizer.no/pages_eng/mobile_eng.html

May 16, 2008 11:47 AM  
Blogger Olivier said...

I don't believe that this small patch can have any beneficial effect. I have no way to verify what they are saying and until proven otherwise, it isn't worth to spend money in there.
If you are worry about radiation and want to be pro-active about it rather than gamble on your health, I would suggest technologies that are proven to work because of how there are built such as this phone:
http://www.lowradiation.co.uk/index.php

I don't think you could possibly live a life without eSmog but you can try to help by using LED light rather than standard economic light and/or halogen, cable rather than wifi, etc...

Don't take the risk to spend your money to crook, they don't deserve it.

May 16, 2008 12:30 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

Do either one of you have any fundamental Electrical Engineering education?

We have such a person that contributes to our blog (bioproisascam.blogspot.com), was an investigator of biopro and one other European company for the Q-Link. This person develops cell phones! And don't go down the road of your bullshit conspiracy crap you learned at biopro... remember, Carlo discredited biopro AND himself which you can read about online and at our blog. This person is a scientist 1st, is NOT paid buy the cell phone companies and is not in bed with the companies. We have yet to find any of these sciences from these "MLM's" valid or real.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! You are being scammed and/or if your a distributor you are scamming people!

May 16, 2008 2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bioproisascam is right! I don't know what their credentials are but this watch dog blog is using basic scientific common sense by asking simple questions. The fact is, Biopro IS MLM, and it seemed to me more interested in revenue rather than cell phone safety. Moreover, how can they expect to command any credible respect in their products as an MLM company? Why wouldn't the CEO open business as a science company? There are so many basic questions to ask before you begin to tear apart their science "scientifically". I was recruited by a family member to sit in one of their meetings and offer my scientific opinion as a postgraduate in the area of Light Spectrum Algorithms. I can honestly tell everyone this is absolutely a scam. I would happily post my contact information to answer any questions but I was "begged" to stay anonymous so as to protect the identity of my family member. This is also telling about this company.

May 17, 2008 12:23 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

FYI-

For those of you whom are not "cool-aid" drinking biopro scam-sultants and still reading this blog as well as bioproisascam.blogspot.com because you too would like to see biopro finally be shut down; biopro has put out the word to "NOT ENGAGE" blogs like us. They have issued yet another directive to their scammers to ignore and completely stop engaging us and blogs and sites like us. Gee, wonder why!

Keep up the good work and remember, their consultants are public and open game!

May 21, 2008 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I looked at it and realised this a load of crap. If it actually worked wouldnt it be widespread and everyone would be endorsing it. Also if it had worked since wireless telecommunications was developed wouldnt it be endorsed by the phone manufacturers as indicated and reproduced in their phones already.

May 24, 2008 6:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes and better yet why not go directly to the cell phone companies and sell the technology to them? BIOPRO will tell you its the same thing as admitting cell phones are an issue. But biopro can do it under cover in a secret deal right? Just like bioproisascam.blogspot.com pointed out this is all just a ruse from an MLM. There is no reason to make an MLM company out of such important science if it were real. It is a joke, the whole thing is a joke and if the cell phone companies REALLY got a pass in regulation as BIOPRO and Dr. Carlo claim then they can give them another pass and cover up the fix as well.

May 25, 2008 5:14 PM  
Blogger PRS said...

Thank God for bloggers where the front lines are being fought!

I went to a discussion about water yesterday. I'm in Honolulu. It was held on the University of Hawaii campus. I heard about it on one of the University's daily radio shows. I assumed that, since it was held at the University that it was a lecture/discussion by one of the faculty or a visiting professor. Nope, it was actually a showing of a movie produced by one of BioPro's local representatives. I didn't know that at the movie. I didn't find it out until I got home and went on the web. The name BioPro was never mentioned by the host or the panel, and IWater was mentioned, but not really presented front and center. They were charging a $5 admission fee for the movie, which, of course, made me suspicious. But I drove all the way there, and my curiosity was hooked, so I shelled out the $5. The movie was actually somewhat interesting with discussions about protons in water and absorption by the body and such stuff with a lot of acquired professional animation and some good photography. Whether any of the claims were based on solid science or not, I wouldn't know. Some of it surely wasn't, though. But as the movie went on it became more and more obvious that it's ultimate purpose was to get you interested in the BioPro IWater system. Think of it. I spent $5 to watch an infomercial!

With credit card applications lining our halls of higher education, should I have been surprised to find out that the University is renting itself out to multi-level marketers? So it goes.

Anyway, the after-movie panel discussion included a doctor of something or other, an acupuncturist, a...well, I can't remember what the other two were, but the discussion did not last very long at all since we had to clear the room for some next scheduled group, the host said. What little discussion there was evolved quickly from water to cell phones and their deadly EMF emissions.

The first question asked, though, was, just what is it the IWater thing does? The host, the BioPro representative, instead of answering the question, informed us that that question would be answered at another meeting which would be held at her house tomorrow night. Do I hear tinklings of Amway and EST? I see online that the IWater system costs only $927, but you can get a 20-30% discount if you too become a BioPro representative. The pyramids are, after all, one of the great wonders of the world, aren't they?

Well, the cell phone discussion did renew a personal concern about EMF's. When I brought up those concerns at a computer forum website once, I was assured by the many technicians there that any day to day fears are unfounded. Ok, so they assuaged me there for the time being. But now, doing my web searching about the topics of EMF discussed after the movie, I once again am very skeptical of the "there's no need to be afraid" assurances.

I hadn't even started a search for IWater when I arrived at this blog, but was researching cordless telephones because the movie host had surprised me when she informed us that cordless phones were actually as much as three times as harmful as cell phones! My web searching has found enough backup of her claim, that I just now ripped two of the three cordless base stations off the walls of our house and threw them in the trash. I'll get to the third when I run some phone line to the needed places. I always looked at those things with some great suspicion.

I have my elaborate home computers' network all on wired ethernet. I have resisted the temptation to go wireless. I don't have a job that requires wireless, nor even a cell phone. I do have a cell phone, though, but use it very infrequently, and will use a landline instead when handy. At $0.25 a minute on my pay-as-you-go plan, payphones are often cheaper anyway, but I do have the problem that I keep accumulating more credit than I can use up on my cell plan. But that's no big deal.

My point is, until the science becomes more conclusive, you don't really need to have these conveniences--at least, not as much as our gluttonous society has so wholeheartedly embraced them. There are still easy ways to get by without them while we wait for the science to prove out. I grew up without a cell phone. Certainly, my daughter can do the same. I tell her not to stand near the microwave oven when it's in use too.

I'm expecting someone here to tell me that all my wired, instead of wireless, is causing an EMF of its own. But still, I can not be so easily assuaged. I don't buy the EMF's are harmless argument, at present. I'm not convinced, and if anything, see that argument more and more losing out in scientific consensus. If you want a graphic to consider, go over to antennasearch.com and type in your address and consider how much microwave is going through your skull right now, especially if you live in a city. The BioPro rep tossed out that URL for us to check out. I'm surrounded, and the people down the road are awash. I don't think my $5 was ill spent. More knowledge is worth $5.

But I sure as hell am not going to buy a bunch of little stickers for $30 each and a lavalamp for $927! That is a scam, whether they work or not--and really, you've got to be kidding? If they actually want to help mankind, then why MLM? Why else. MONEY. Mullah. Dough. Please, you can't hug me and give me a kiss while you stick your hand in my back pocket going after my wallet and think I'm going to consider you a honest friend. That, my friends, is the definition of dishonesty.

What should I do with those nefarious LCD-display clock radios, though? It's a decision weighing heavily on my mind. And then, the computers themselves? Will they all accompany the cordless phones in the big yellow truck? No, I'm not that crazy, but Lord help me.

June 02, 2008 8:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is TOO much research that proves BIOPRO products work. Please stop spreading lies.

June 02, 2008 11:07 AM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

1st of all anonymous...
Prove it! Oh wait, you can't! We know you can't because biopro creates bogus science which can not be verified, they trot out celebrities as though they are credible, they propagandizes about the dangers of EMF for obvious pure profits and then you have the audacity to to ask us to stop spreading lies? If we are lying then PROVE IT! And prove it with actual doctors, actual science and with some actual credibility. Don't point us towards the biopro web site, they discredit themselves with their own 'wellness product' disclosure at the bottom of their home page! AKA: a product and science that can not be verified by the FDA, FTC or FCC!

Now to your post prs. Yes, your intuition is correct, why an MLM? Because, you are also right that its all about greed and not real science or a genuine desire to help protect people from a "theory" that electronic devices emit a dangerous level of EMF. We have been saying and pointing out your exact common sense questions on our Blog http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com and exposing this scam and hopefully truly protect the consumer from real EMF (Emotionally Manufactured Fraud).

In addressing your concerns of EMF dangers, you make a point about scientific consensus. A consensus is just that, a consensus, not a proven fact. Over the last decade and longer many studies have been done. In fact, before the cell phone companies could sell their products to the masses they had to be approved by the appropriate government regulators despite the conspiracy theories biopro propagandizes about of some sort of cover up. Again, just use your common sense. But there are facts about cell phones and other electronic devices and their EMF levels vs. safety. We have resource links on our Blog addressing this as well and hope they assist you.

All this really amounts to is an MLM company exploiting an opportunity by furthering an unproven idea, "the dangers of EMF".

June 02, 2008 8:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before using the bio-chip less than a yr. ago, i had to stop using my cell phone 3 times in a 10yr. period. The first time was after 6mos. I never have headaches, but with the use of a cell phone.. my headaches were from ear to ear. this was weird..and scary . I wanted my money back, and the cell phone co. complied. I have my own business now thought it would be wise to have a headset..and not have the phone to my head. I tried this for a yr or two... and starting noticing the same pain come back. I was introduce to this co.. and was using the headset that was connected to the phone. IT WORKED !! No more pain. I was thrilled. The wire on any headset will go eventually..and after a yr it did. Compared to other headsets..that only lasted 6wks. I knew this was a good co. I went to a bluetooth next.. bought the chip and put it on that. Since that time, i have NOT had a problem. I understand uncovering any scams out there.. but when you have ACTUALLY testimonies... That work.. there not much you can to me that would change my mind.

June 03, 2008 10:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds a lot like you experienced the "placebo effect" as there is no physical possibility these chips interfere, block, reinforce you or absorb the radio frequencies from cell phones. It is not even possible to detect these chips in a controlled environment such as a lab as the tools/devices to do so do not exist. Therefore, how is it physically possible to create MERT if you can not physically detect MERT. Testimonials are not science and should never be used as a basis of findings making your argument an empty platform. I have a Doctorate in physics and a PHD in Mathematics. I was being bombarded by a friend to take a look at his chips. What I found was nothing and I explained to him he was involved with another MLM scam. If this science were true, trust me, the cell phone companies would have been kicking down the inventors doors and this would have never made it to public specially with an MLM.

June 06, 2008 7:11 PM  
Anonymous Richard Russell said...

Just found this great blog! Well done for exposing these scam artists. Dr Carlo and Dr Smirnov tried to scam my town into buying their shields to put in front of local cell towers. Fortunately, common sense prevailed. I wrote about it here...
http://web.mac.com/rgrussell/Smirnov/Home.html

June 17, 2008 12:37 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

Great work Mr. Russell!

You have a profound way of describing the obvious. We do plan to use your insight on our own Blog at http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com which is a Blog dedicated to have the appropriate Gov. agencies investigate and shut down the total scam. Their obvious attempted use of fraudulent science to create hysteria for the sole purpose to sell products is outrageous and you have assisted tremendously to expose these frauds.

June 17, 2008 6:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Board certified thoracic,cardiac and general surgeon, Dartmouth, Cornell Med, Univ Calif SF...went to Biopro gathering in N.Calif this week with CEO Grimm there and saw the IWater, chips, the arm strength demo, DVD, etc. I believe there may well be some connection between cell-phone use and glioblastoma multiforme, but there are no studies currently to prove causation. Within a decade, there will be a couple billion cellphones worldwide, but variables such as smoking, airpollution, food intake, and the simple fact the cause of cancer of any kind remains unknown...will make logical cause and effect difficult.
Having said that, it is apparent Biopro has made the next leap of faith...that they produce a product that stops harmful effects of various radio, micro and cellphone waves. This is the hard part, and the point at which, at this meeting, I disconnected.
I have yet to finish researching Mr. Grimm's past history, but will do so. The room was flush with doctors of chiropractic and augmented housewives from the Bay Area who have become representatives and testimonials from others who "cleared $7,000 my first week".
I consider myself well educated and able to understand real science, but moreover, I know when I am looking at a phony scam and yes, the chips the content of which "is proprietary" and secret, probably cost about 5 cents to make.
In this blog site, I saw posts from over a year ago predicting demise of this company, but from this single experience, it would appear the pyramid is, if anything, taller and stronger today.

June 22, 2008 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your last comment, BIOPRO appearing to be stronger today..., you sound as though to got suckered by the marketing or you are a BIOPRO employee or distributor. BIOPRO brings people from the local area and from corporate as plants, they are well known for this, they do it in every meeting as do all MLM's. They want you to get the appearance of them being a strong MLM, their a Marketing company!

Back to your first statements. Why don't you disclose your identity so we can check your credentials? Why would a "self proclaimed well educated person" be at an MLM convention!? HA-HA! I think you just discredited yourself.

If you are truly real and your statements are genuine, learn more about Ray Grimm, his scam company/companies and BIOPRO at http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com or http://web.mac.com/rgrussell/Smirnov/Home.html

June 24, 2008 10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I identified myself honestly on education and vocation to establish a bit of credibility since I signed "anonymous", and I see no need to expose myself to emails directed to me just to make one person believe. If you need your aortic aneurysm fixed, I will be happy to be your surgeon. I went to this meeting with two friends (one a rep) from a fitness center I belong to and since I assume some reps read this site, preferred to be anonymous. I am not associated with the scam, was invited by the rep to attend, and I found the presentation fascinating, just looking around at the clapping, cheering, totally attentive audience was worth the trip...and having seen the BioPro cellphone chip, wanted to hear the pitch. I said it appears to be growing stronger, because the emphasis is on recruitment and economic times such as this had the room full of bored real estate women and housewives, who found the "we need to protect children" irresistable. The DVD was slick, the pitch for the childrens' home an interesting sidebar, and after going there, I did extensive due diligence on these sites to learn of Grimm's past companies, his salary and the drive for newer and different products. No, I'm not a plant. I told my friend who is a rep "I cannot make the leap to believe any of these products have validity, and I would advise you not to spend a whole lot of your hard-earned money on them." That was about as honest as I could be and not destroy a friendship, particularly because the rep believes in BioPro with complete heart and soul. My puzzlement is simply why some governmental agency isn't on their case...even for tax evasion...good grief, they regulate everything we do in the office and hospital. That, I guess is a comment on both the lax government and gullible people out there.

June 25, 2008 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is good to hear you did not fall for the "marketing". If it were my friend, the rep., I would be doing everything I could to help them steer clear of this scam. You know its a scam as you clearly and most eloquently explained, then its your obligation to help your friend find the truth as I have done.

All that marketing you have also spelled out is very very slick isn't it. I think that is the point of this blog, to point out that its all marketing and not real science and the level of deceptiveness based on that fact makes it very hard to understand why they have not been investigated and shut down by now.

June 25, 2008 11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me how this scam is allowed to continue? Why hasn't the law done anything? Seems odd that people on Wall Street can get stopped for doing much more complicated dealings than Biopro's claims. Biopro's statements are pretty outrageous and false. It's pretty black and white. Not much grey to even debate over. So how does this continue?

Last week I wound up at a presentation for Biopro. I did not know anything about Biopro going in. I thought it was going to be a scientific research-oriented discussion about cell phone useage. After all, the presentation was hosted at a doctor's office. So I somehow thought it would be about real research. It never occurred to me it would be about MLM. But I figured it out once I got there. I even tested "more strong" myself, when holding one of the chips in the demonstration. Strange, because my mind knew the whole thing was a hoax but I guess my body still responded the way it did so as to not disappoint everyone else in the room who was watching with bated breath? I don't know.

Since then, I have found other places in the city selling these chips, and doing quite a lot of business.

You know, even if it is placebo and it helps people, so be it. It is what it is. The mind is very powerful and if people get relief from pain, fine. Nothing wrong with people feeling better.

I just don't understand how the company can continue claiming what it claims, without running into a lot of legal problems. The government cracks down on phony cures for cancer. How is it that Biopro avoids the same?

June 30, 2008 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry, the Government is looking into Biopro even if its not a "public investigation". Also, there are more than just one state in one country looking - they are in other countries and there are people reporting them in these other locations.

Yes, mind over matter is powerful but it does not cover up the unseen facts - that this product does not protect or prevent EMF/EMR. You are talking about Biopro's stupid muscle test which does not prove anything but an age old fact that one can be distracted by suggestion. That trick was performed in the old days at carnivals and possible further way back to the original MLM's, Snake Oil Salesmen.

Biopro used to target specific types of people - those that would obviously look at this monetarily only and not really care what the science is or is not but still believe the phony science enough to push it. The fact they have to go outside this small community of "the sky is falling" believers means they are struggling and hopefully will be forced to shutdown from pure economics. When common sense and informed people like yourself in the "real world" see it you know right off the bat is a scam - this is the key to their demise and works much faster in todays world than any Government regulators... THANK GOD!

June 30, 2008 10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone should see this!

http://bioproscam.wordpress.com

It looks to be a "leaked" email from a pissed off distributor of a letter from Biopro attempting to counter the blow dealt by Dr. Carlo.

Another sign that Biopro is in REAL trouble... HURRAY!!!

June 30, 2008 10:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a salesman and all science aside biopro is an mlm company. Their model is sales and marketing first and here is the truth about this type of model. Biopro sells their product on the premise of "security" or "safety" just like an insurance salesman; they 1st must scare you, present their solution and then close the deal.

After attending their meetings I have observed the following facts:
1. They are seating members that will agree with everything they say. These people are either hired by biopro or are committed distributors with ntohing but self interest as a priority. This is an old tactic most marketing companies do, is phony and dishonest.
2. They do not know their own science because the only thing consistent about the descriptions and explanations are the invalid "testimonials". Testimonials only happen after the product has been proven to work. These people are rookie sales people because as a salesman for pharmaceutic products I know I would never sell a single drug unless I had lab tested facts to back up my products. After my customer liked the numbers then I would use clinical trial "evidence", which are basically testimonials, to prove the drug works on an X amount of people.

Conclusion, this is an absolute scam!

July 11, 2008 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a salesman and all science aside biopro is an mlm company. Their model is sales and marketing first and here is the truth about this type of model. Biopro sells their product on the premise of "security" or "safety" just like an insurance salesman; they 1st must scare you, present their solution and then close the deal.

After attending their meetings I have observed the following facts:
1. They are seating members that will agree with everything they say. These people are either hired by biopro or are committed distributors with ntohing but self interest as a priority. This is an old tactic most marketing companies do, is phony and dishonest.
2. They do not know their own science because the only thing consistent about the descriptions and explanations are the invalid "testimonials". Testimonials only happen after the product has been proven to work. These people are rookie sales people because as a salesman for pharmaceutic products I know I would never sell a single drug unless I had lab tested facts to back up my products. After my customer liked the numbers then I would use clinical trial "evidence", which are basically testimonials, to prove the drug works on an X amount of people.

Conclusion, this is an absolute scam!

July 11, 2008 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone should read this!

http://bioprotechnologyisascam.blogspot.com

July 29, 2008 6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so now with all the latest media coverage and cell companies having to disclose to the public the fact that it IS causing us damage....still wondering about biopros PATENTED technology? Funny how people are so skeptical until the federal government tells them the "SHOCKING NEWS"! the on ly thing is its not shocking news to those who have researched biopros technology and have like others in other countries long before us done something about it!

August 05, 2008 3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you NOT hear the news? Of course not, not when you are DRUNK on biopro cool-aid. Here, see if you can follow text because you obviously can't hear.

"There is no, that is NO, evidence in both the RF community as well as the medical community to conclude there is an issue or to even make that idiotic leap that cell phones are dangerous."

Does that make sense to you? And the media did not disclose anything, they are just fishing for the next hysteria like Man Made Global Warming which is all this crap is.

August 06, 2008 7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023913.html
excerpt: "(NaturalNews) A new review of more than 100 studies on the safety of mobile phones has concluded that cellular devices are poised to cause an epidemic of brain tumors that will kill more people than smoking or asbestos.

The review was conducted by neurosurgeon Vini Khurana, who has received more than 14 awards in the past 16 years, who made headlines worldwide with his warnings. He called upon the industry to immediately work to reduce people's exposure to the radiation from mobile phones.

According to Khurana, research demonstrates that long-term use of mobile handsets, more than 10 years, can double the risk of contracting brain cancer. While a number of studies have concluded that there is no such risk, Khurana said that most of those studies only examined short-term use. But because a brain tumor can take 10 years to develop, studies without a long follow-up period are largely meaningless...."
comments?

August 20, 2008 8:17 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

1. Khurana is a well known alarmist with his own hidden agenda... I would sugest you follow the money - that allways takes you to the truth. A perfect example; biopro, an MLM compny NOT a science company supported by the FCC or FDA, claims to hold the solution. What a farce!

2. NO ONE knows how long it takes cancer to develop so to make these short term vs long term claims is irresponsible at least and at best blasphemy.

The truth is this is just another Global Warming style hyped idea with bottom feeders like Carlo, Khurana and biopro feeding of the idiots falling for it.

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August 25, 2008 2:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 64 years old, and I have seen in the past 5 years more people dying of brain tumors than I did in the first 60 years of my life, by far. Young people and old people alike. With wireless everywhere, it is being said that there are billions' times more EMRs in our surroundings now than there were just a few years ago. This isnot natural, and our bodies are suffering from it. Suicides, depression, irritability, and lots more symptoms are being related to this "fourth pollution," as they term it. There is enough scientific proof out there that this is occurring that any one with an open mind and ability to make obvious connections should be able to see and admit the dangers. I personally have lost two dear friends to brain cancer in the past five years. If Biopro is not a good company, then what is? What about Zeropa, a company from Korea that holds patents and has significant research and science behind it. Does anyone have any personal experience with it? I just know that since my husband brought home his new wireless, high-powered laptop, my ears ring like crazy, my jaw hurts, and I can't sleep but feel miserable all the time it is around, whether I know it is there or don't know. He's said it's all in my mind and has taken it in and out without my knowing, and my body invariably feels it, so the placebo effect is ruled out. I don't want to get ES from all this wireless stuff we have in our house and I really need help! Anyone out there who could provide some real help and not just the same old blah blah that it's all in our heads (well, actually, it is!) would be much appreciated.

August 26, 2008 12:15 AM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

1st off - you were not as inundated by all this media and hype like there is today with this 24/7 news era and most of if disinformation like EMF and Global Warming. You are old enough to know that if you follow the money you will find the root of all inventions; not all are honest and biopro is a perfect example. So I would say that is the min reason your 1st 60 years were as you say.

2nd - There is not any scientific proof or we would not be discussing this.In fact, there is not even support in the "real" science community so again like Global Warming - consensus and non medically published articles are not proof. Patents are a dime a dozen - you can get one - anyone can get a patent. Look it up; patents to not equal proof or verifiability - it only means you own you crazy idea or invention nd no one can steel it.

3rd - I would agree with your husband...

4th - you want real help? Go see a shrink. Seriously, WiFi is nto dangerous. In fact, you say all this about your husbands wireless laptop but I bet you didn't know there is more EMF coming from your TV. And at your age, the old tube TV's had radiation emitting from them - so you need to see a shrink!

August 28, 2008 12:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So are you as shrink or do you work for a computer company? You want facts, I can send you a volume. You might start with these:

EMF FINDINGS OF CELL PHONE TASKFORCE, 2001

0.001 100 Yards from a Cellular Phone

0.002 Sleep disorders, abnormal blood pressure, nervousness, weakness, fatigue, limb pain, joint pain, digestive problems, fewer schoolchildren promoted—controlled study near a shortwave transmitter
Altpeter 1995, 1997

0.007 50 Feet from a Cordless Phone

0.01 Human sensation Kolbun 1987

0.016 1 Mile from a Cellular Tower

0.06 Altered EEG, disturbed carbohydrate metabolism, enlarged adrenals, altered adrenal hormone levels,
structural changes in liver, spleen, testes, and brain—in Dumanskij 1974
0.06 Slowing of the heart, change in EEG iMcRee 1980

0.05 10 Feet from a Wireless Computer

0.1 Increase in melatonin Stark 1997
0.1 to 1.8 Decreased life span, impaired reproduction, structural and developmental abnormalities in duckweed plants Magone 1996
0.13 Decreased cell growth (human epithelial amnion cells) Kwee 1997
0.168 Irreversible sterility in mice Magras 1997
0.2 to 8.0 Childhood leukemia near transmitters Hocking 1996
0.3 Impaired motor function, reaction time, memory and attention of schoolchildren, and altered sex ratio of children (fewer boys) Kolodynski 1996
0.6 Change in calcium ion efflux from brain tissue Dutta 1986
0.6 Cardiac arrhythmias and sometimes cardiac arrest Frey 1968
0–4 Altered white blood cell activity in schoolchildren Chiang 1989
1.0 Headache, dizziness, irritability, fatigue, weakness, insomnia, chest pain, difficulty breathing, indigestion (humans—occupational exposure) Simonenko 1998
1.0 Stimulation of white cells in guinea pigs Shandala 1978
2.5 Breakdown of blood-brain barrier (used a digital cellular phone to provide the radiation) Salford 1997
5.0 Leukemia, skin melanoma and bladder cancer near TV and FM transmitter Dolk 1997
“Microwave hearing”—clicking, buzzing, chirping, hissing, or high-pitched tones Frey 1963, 1969,
1971, 1973, 1988,
5.0 Biochemical and histological changes in liver, heart, kidney, and brain tissue Belokrinitskiy l982
10.0 Damaged mitochondria, nucleus of cells in hippocampus of brain Belokrinitskiy 1982a
10~0 Impaired memory and visual reaction time in people living near transmitters Chiang 1989
10.0 Decreased size of litter, increased number of stillborns in mice Il’Chevich (reported in McRee 1980)
10.0 Redistribution of metals in the lungs, brain, heart, liver, kidney, muscles, spleen, bones, skin, blood Shutenko 1981





RADIO WAVE SICKNESS

Symptoms

Insomnia, headaches, dizziness, nausea, memory loss, difficulty concentrating, irritability, respiratory
illness (bronchitis, sinusitis, pneumonia), flu-like illness, asthma, fatigue, weakness, pressure or pain in
the chest, increase in blood pressure, altered pulse rate (usually slowed), pressure behind the eyes, other
eye problems, swollen throat, dry lips or mouth, dehydration, sweating, fever, shortness of breath, muscle
spasms, tremors, pain in the legs or the soles of the feet, testicular or pelvic pain, joint pain, pains that
move around the body, nosebleeds, internal bleeding, hair loss, digestive problems, skin rash, ringing in
the ears, impaired sense of smell, pain in the teeth (especially with metallic fillings)

Reports to the Cellular Phone Taskforce
Since digital cellular phones (and towers) came to the United States in November 1996, the symptoms of
radio wave sickness have become epidemic in all major cities and near most wireless facilities. The
above list of symptoms includes the symptoms reported throughout the scientific literature, plus some
new ones based on what we are hearing and experiencing, from throughout the world.

History of This Illness

The term “radio wave sickness” was first used by Russian doctors to describe an occupational illness
developed by large numbers of workers exposed to microwave or radiofrequency radiation. The
symptoms were called “neurasthenic.” “Neurasthenia” was an older term for this group of symptoms,
which was coined by an American physician, George Beard, in 1868, to describe a new type of illness
that followed the building of the railroads and the telegraph system in this country. The illness was
particularly common among telegraph, and later among telephone operators. The term “neurasthenia” fell
out of fashion in the twentieth century in this country, when this cluster of symptoms, or a large number
of them, began to be referred to as “anxiety” symptoms, presumably of purely psychological origin.
Illness by radio waves has been rediscovered, and is now classed with illness caused by electricity in
general, under the term “electrical sensitivity.” There have been four international scientific conferences
held in recent years on electrical sensitivity—one in Austria, two in Denmark, and one, for medical
doctors, in Dallas, Texas. Two books exist on the subject, by Grant (1995) and Bergqvist (1997).

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August 28, 2008 3:30 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

None of these are facts, you are an idiot if you think some rogue study(s) that are not verified or backed up by any credible organization like ummm.. the FCC or ummm.. the FDA or how about any credible entity in the SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRY!

And by the way - consensus is NOT FACT! You may need to let the clowns at biopro know this as well.

August 28, 2008 6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would say after that last post you might as well shut this blog down. Your MO is to ridicule everything and everybody that does not agree with you. If you are so intelligent, you should be able to respond with out calling people names and attacking them personally. After going through your blog thoroughly, I am very curious why anyone would spend this much time attacking a Company that will undoubtedly fall by the way side if their products are as big a farce as you say they are. Because you see that is how product marketing succeeds or fails. People will only spend money for product that does not work for so long then they stop buying it. Your aversion to Multi Level Marketing is your business, however I believe it is a great way to build a very profitable business, You will not be successful unless you help the people you have sponsored be successful, you help yourself by helping them. Wouldn't it be great if other businesses had that ethic. This is my only post to your blog, I just happened by while I am researching Biopro and their products to decide if I will become involved. By the way you keep saying a $2000.00 investment. A person can join the organization for a very small investment. I have not made up my mind yet but there is nothing in your inflammatory blog that would deter me. You really should consider getting a life. Your efforts in this so called cause have been fruitless. Biopro is stronger then ever and new studies coming out are verifying the dangers and the purchasers of their products are verifying their products work, so maybe you will be more affective in the whole global warming issue. In stead of wasting your time time blogging try watching educational TV and sit real close after all no danger with those electrical frequencies.

August 28, 2008 10:45 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

You are offended by me calling you and idiot (which is just a word) then at the end of your post you expose the true and real hatred typical from you biopro types with telling me to sit closer to the TV. That can only be interpreted as you believing in EMR and you want me to get cancer. Is this your twisted and sick way to prove you are right? That is just real nice now isn't it. And its people like you that run around claiming to save the children with scam products. You are exactly the type of angry and pent up people biopro survives on so I am sure biopro is happy to have you drinking their cool aid.

Wasting my time with a Blog? You read it didn't you! You came here and posted and continue to respond! And because you did come here and read our Blog you are proving that;

1) You did question if biopro is a scam or you would not be here

2) We are doing our job which is to inform everyone of the biopro scam even if they are already on the cool aid as you are.

August 29, 2008 4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey! If you don't think this company is not a scam - name one company that sells a stupid BUTTON for $2!

http://www.bioprotechnology.com/Shop_BIOPRO.aspx

Yes, a shirt pin most people hand out for free and this company is trying to make money on it... now THAT is a scam!!!

September 01, 2008 12:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great point!

September 11, 2008 9:34 PM  
Anonymous df from nj said...

I heard about this product from Hippocrates Health Institue in Fla. This world class institute and it's staff are dedicated to promoting health and well being. I spent time there and was impressed by their knowlede and commitment to optimum health. I find it disturbing that they would promote a product like this that you consider a scam. Please comment.

September 13, 2008 10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well we firmly believe that most health products, supplements, etc. are a waste of money. You can find many well reputable and well accredited health "doctors" (not some self proclaimed expert) that will tell you the science behind supplements. One of the facts well known in the medical community is that the human body can not possibly absorb all the nutrients in a normal "healthy" diet. So adding supplements you are wasting more than 90% of that sup. by it going right thru you. Now, if you think the price is worth the possible 10% your body retains then by all means uses them. But if you eat very healthy then you’re literally doing all you can do and ingesting all your body is capable of. This is why most sups. come from MLM’s.

Now biopro offers more of the same, more MLM supplements but the scam of this company is their so called mert technology. They go into a whole bunch of complete scientific psychobabble about an energy they claim they charge their jewelry and supplements with and it’s just a farce and lie! They have created this “science” in order to justify their outrageous prices. Its just a scam and there is an effort to have them shut down.

You should first read this site: http://web.mac.com/rgrussell/Smirnov/Home.html
Then you should also read: http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/

September 13, 2008 2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think that you are feeling adverse effects from EMF, then you're first course of action is to eat an adequate amount of nutritional foods in a timely manner everyday, get plenty of regular rest everyday along with 30 minutes of intense exercise every 2-3 days. Pray regularly everyday and live like you know you should instead of as though you were rehearsing for tomorrow.

October 07, 2008 10:54 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

That is a great point! Simple, easy and is exactly what the doctor orders.

October 09, 2008 6:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how stupid these comments are:
0.1 cent diet coke worth $1.50 on the market that kills you.
0.1 cent big mac at McDonalds worth $1.50 that fucks you
5 cents black round chip worth 30 dollars on the market. At least the chips does't ruin your life.

October 24, 2008 1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but I'm sat hear cringing at some of these posts... wouldn't the government/phone companies use the technology if it worked? Do we need the technology when everything is already safe and tested? These are really naive question asked by sweet innocent people who have no idea. The government don't care about your health. Read the china study by dr t. collin cambell and find out why diet alone could reverse 99% of ALL DISEASES. btw he used to be on the advisary board for the president on health related issues. If you lot arE SOOOO trusting of your government, why will the fda not approve stevia a natural sugar alternative when it is used in many other countries and sugar is actually extremely bad for your health. Dont get me started on aspestos. these are just some small examples. PLEASE!!!! Look these up and think to yourself 'should I trust what I'm told by so called government agencies who are supposed to protect us?' short answer...NO! These products work. I understand that you want to do the right thing and there are a LOT of rip off merchants out there but BioPro is not one of them. I really think you should stop prosecuting this company and trying to prevent genuine, good people from trying to help others.

October 25, 2008 8:04 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

We are not saying "place all your trust in the US Government" - we live here, we know that would be absurd. You state some stats and tell us to look them up - why don't you look up the fact the US is the healthiest country the world has ever seen EVEN with an FDA that has flaws but you also need to understand it is the fact we have an DFA and other Gov. regulatory agencies which grants us this status. Now in the case of biopro, this is a perfect example of our Gov. agencies failing. Some of this has to do with the size of the company - they probably do not pass the smell test to trigger an investigation so it is left up to us the people to alert everyone of this scam and this is why you see these Blogs.

October 26, 2008 5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have Autistic child and I have to thank Biopro if he feels better, and thank to Biopendant...
thank you thank you thank you BIOPRO.

October 28, 2008 1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a distributor, i don't know much about MLM, but, i bought IH20 water system, amazing results within 4 weeks.

October 28, 2008 2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are clowns and minions of BIOPRO. You are obviously doing as BIOPRO has instructed you to do. When I got my "orders" a light went off that BIOPRO really is a scam MLM or they would not have you counteract in Blogs and Forums. You know BIOPRO has given orders to "fight back the bad publicity" and to come push their agenda. You are what they call "suckers".

October 28, 2008 11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Einstein , i think you need help...
P.s. go back to University and learn to write English first.-punk-

October 29, 2008 11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL.LOL you are right..
Maybe he got fired from Biopro, thats way he's angry.

October 29, 2008 11:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly, I worked for Biopro in the office - not as a distributor. I am not going to get into the whole EMF issue - I think there is a problem but I am also sure none of the BIOPRO products can do anything about it. I saw litterally hundreds of things returned by people who returned them without even wanting their money back because frankly they were too embarrassed.

ALL THE HIGHER-UPS IN THE ORGANIZATION DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE - BUT ONLY WANT PROFIT

When I saw how much this stuff actually cost I was astounded at what they sold it for - if they are helping people why are they ripping them off along the way?

They also constantly make fun of distributors and were only concerned if people weren't selling thousands and signing up more "suckers".

At the end of the day they are a dodgy company run by rich thugs who hate people and want one thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. They use fear to get that money from innocent people who have real concerns.

I had to leave - I couldn't play the game - I am urging people - ESPECIALLY DISTRUBUTORS - have NOTHING to do with this company!

October 29, 2008 3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The arm-test is a really easy scam - I've even done it with a "magic stone" (I found in my backyard) - Heres what you do-

1)Have some grab a powerbar. Without warning QUICKLY FORCE their arm down. It will drop.

2) Give them the "magic stone" or chip or harmonizer or whatever. tell them you are now going to push their arm down. GRADUALLY APPLY steady slow pressure.

3) Give a speech imprinting false ideas about why this just happened.

By applying slow steady pressure the body and mind have a moment to coordinate the muscles needed to keep the arm up. I've even done this to the point of hanging off a persons arm.

Its just a trick exploiting the mind and outstretched arms weakness.

Try it at parties - you'll get really good at it!

October 29, 2008 3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm buying stuff all the time, i've returned back only a few products, and they refunded me in a short period of time.

October 29, 2008 5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think its alarming that this company would come onto sites like these and accuse ANYONE for creating these sites "because their angry for getting fired". Even if it is not someone in the company placing messages on these sites it would have taken someone from the company to release such private info to the public and that is unacceptable for any reputable company to do.

I asked around and this person that got fired by the name of Tod was fired over 2 years ago. Seems a stretch to say the IT person is that "angry". I also found out that Lynda Cormier was fired around the same time for having an affair with the company president Alfred Hanser and also around this period of time the controller Cindy left voluntarily "under duress". I know if I were one of these latter two people I would be much more pissed off.

Did Biopro prosecute this IT person? Stealing is a crime of which you of all people should know that Biopro. Please post on your own site the legal documents that prove your claims.

If they are not telling the truth in these sites then why not ignore it? Seems to me the more I read about Biorpo the more it seems like a company to just stay away from for multiple reasons and on many different levels.

November 02, 2008 7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also worked for BioPro and found the management appalling. I had access to much of the same information as distributors. I found a lot of discrepencies and inaccuracies especially when I cross-referenced it with known data. This got so disturbing I approached some upper management and discussed the fact that it was just plain unethical to mislead people in this way. I discussed that they shouldn't publish things that just weren't true.

It was sad also because i saw so many people who really did need help with whatever was ailing them and they believed BioPro to have the answer - but as the months went on they found out these products did nothing but cost a lot. I had access to all of the products, tried them all and even bought them for family and friends embarrassingly nobody ever felt better. The testimonials and hoopla you hear are from the top of the MLM pyramid - they are making serious cash at the expense of the rest.
I urge everyone in this time of economic unrest to save your money and your future and turn your back on BioPro.

November 05, 2008 4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read a number of postings on this blog site (from different time periods). I also read a few related links (to articles published by other critics, as well as supporters, and researchers that bio-pro and critics have referenced that are not directly related to the bio-pro products, and data on the company and owners).

I'm interested only in arguments, opinions and views that are substantiated by scientific evidence, academic research and comparative historical data, and would appreciate a response that provides information that is backed up by the above. Dogma and belief doesn't help me to sort out whether or not different bio-pro products work or how it works - except to you personally!

My studies and professional back ground are originally in natural medicine with additional degrees in psychology. I continue to work in the health and wellness industry (mostly teaching). If something works - I'll try it or use it - even if I don't understand how it works. However, I am a strong skeptic so if I'm going to try something or use it I prefer to understand it thoroughly.
I.e. By the recommendation of a friend, if a food tastes good and my body responds well to it through initial sensing, I'll try it. I don't have to understand it all before I consume it - so long I trust it isn't harmful. I can then research the vitamins, nutrients and minerals of that food and it's relationship to the constitution of my body. Somethings will be unknown (because not everything is known about all foods) but that won't stop me from eating it if my body feels good from it. But the more I can understand, the better.

One of the challenges with qualifying or quantifying "proof" that something works or not (when it involves testing medication or a treatment device on a human being) is that the power of the mind has a strong effect. (I believe most of you reading know of the "placebo effect"). Therefore someone might wear a biopro pendant and have an illness improve dramatically. Many people might wear it and experience the same results. I don't know if this has to do with a "placebo effect" or if the pendant works or if they are also doing all kinds of other treatments that haven't been factored in or perhaps all of the above. I would be interested in this kind of data. Anyone have a source more thorough and comprehensive that brings all these variables together?

Also, has anyone been to the research facility of Biopro (if there is one)?

Or their headquarters?

I saw criticisms of the MLM system in general. I will speak frankly and say I don't care if Biopro is MLM or not, I'm only interested in understanding the technology and it's soundness or lack of it.

Any further resources would be helpful. I am interested in evidence from both the supporting and critics side.

A.K.

November 15, 2008 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no research facility.. LOL that's exactly what makes all this a JOKE! YOU are the research facility! they dream up an idea, make a cheep object and then make up some hocus pocus concept that the object has been charged with some miracle energy ONLY biopro knows and understands then sells it to SUCKERS.

November 20, 2008 10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your response. I will look further into how biopro collect their data and "invent" and "test" their products or if they do.

I do wish to comment that while I appreciate your frank and clear information that you know of no such research facility, your conclusion that "they dream up an idea, make a cheep object and then make up some hocus pocus..." is as dogmatic what you point out of bio-pro's claims. As I mentioned earlier, I'm looking for sound arguments based on evidence. While a lack of a research facility certainly puts into question bio-pro's credibility, it doesn't substantiate that it's "hocus pocus" either. I am looking for rational argument. Even if bio-pro is hocus pocus, I'm interested in being able to argue this reasonably.

What this does put into question for me is the credibility of this blog. I will continue to collect research but only with sound backing. Thank you for your response.

November 21, 2008 10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been purchasing products for over two years, and they seem to work just fine.

November 24, 2008 7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1st off, they "seem" to work? What kind of validation is that?

The other post looking for less vague answers; you have come to a Blog to find your answer? That says a lot right there and possibly means you asked Biopro but got the same vague answer?

Bottom line is most companies with technology have images of their testing facilities, have legit looking result documents and will even offer to give tours in their facilities where the products are made and tested. The truth is Biopro is the result of two previously failed MLM companies the last one being FemOne and Biopro is also on its way out of business as well. They are currently being investigated if they know it or not and will be shut-down for fraud. trying to answer you directly, they do not have a budget to provide themselves with a test facility but the best way to find out is call them and ask. Ask for proof and even a tour... LOL! That should be a funny call to hear and listen to them bullshit their way out of that!

December 03, 2008 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Choose your line of marketing, choose your product to advertise , its a free country and scam companies go out of business! Um hello BIO PRO is still in the game! Haters and unmotivaters seem to be the constant in this blog so the reality is that a cell phone up to your ear is not healthy nor is it safe long term when several medical issues are arising. Rome was not built in a day and side effects of long term damage will submerge. Just wait and see.

December 04, 2008 4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't stop laughing.."They are currently being investigated"; Ohh yes from James Bond. aha hahah ahahah..

December 04, 2008 5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't doubt they have been being investigated. I bet they attend their meetings and are on their phone conference calls. Ever heard of Herbal Life? The FBI was investigating that company for more than 3 years and look what happen to them.

MLM's are shady shady companies and they should all be investigated to the full extent - Biopro is NO exception. In fact, Biopro is the exact reason all MLM's should be investigated. Their business models skirt laws, avoid FDA and FCC regulations and spin truths for nothing but massive amounts of money the distributors never see.

December 05, 2008 7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

-SEC Closes Investigation Of Herbalife- They found nothing requiring any "enforcement action". No evidence of an illegal pyramid scheme (apparently the FTC forgot to tell the SEC about that 51% deal), no concern about misbegotten revenue from China, no insider trading... nothing!
P.S. is the guy who runs this blog Under the Influence??????

December 09, 2008 1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were sanctioned by the FDA to completely change their labeling AND the language used to sell their products.. hardly a pass.

Herbal Life was deliberately talking down the "legitimate" drug industry just as Biopro is doing as well as completely lying about what their own products do including being fined a huge fine and forced their president to take the fall. Typical business corruption!

December 10, 2008 11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are Mcdonald's and Coca cola FDA approved??

December 10, 2008 4:57 PM  
Anonymous e.g. said...

i have a pendant and its helped me, not fully to where i cant feel radiation or electro magnetic rays, but it definatly helped, so im not sure about these new things, but i do know everything electric puts out a strong current that can actually cause us more harm then we can feel, or are aware of..be careful n live healthy is all i can say..goodluck

December 10, 2008 5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that a serious question? McDonald's, Coca Cola and all food and beverage distributors are very much "regulated" by the FDA as well as other Gov. agencies in that their consumables must meet certain regulation for safety standards.

Did you catch that? The word "STANDARDS". That thing that biopro conveniently does not poses in the individuals OR the company due to the type of industry they are; MLM. They are only concerned with avoiding regulation NOT meeting regulation. Study the history of the Ponzi Scheme and you will learn for yourself the nature of the MLM industry and why they spend most of their time walking right up to the line of regulation and cross it as much as possible to survive. Otherwise they would never survive because their products typically are B.S. and are created in a Grey cloud.

To this last person about electricity "hurting" us you are just flat out ignorant to the facts of electricity. It ONLY causes harm at VERY high voltages and directly applied to your body in which case you would be shocked and possibly die. But electricity itself all around us does not cause any harm. You are harmed more by the Sun than you will ever be in your home with all the lights and plugs actively running at max capacity.

Get a grip people! Our Government taking over more and more of our economy with bailouts is MUCH MUCH more devastating to your health than ANY EMF hype crap from Biopro and the likes.

December 12, 2008 7:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI, McDonald's and Coca Cola ARE NOT FDA APPROVED..http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/mcdonalds.jpg

December 13, 2008 12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Approved" - this moron is parsing words and diverting attention from BIO-SCAM.

The fact is:
1. Biopro's pills and drinks are not "approved" by the FDA
2. Biopro's science is not "approved" by the FCC

THESE ARE THE FACTS AND THEY ARE HUGE DISCREDITING FACTS BASED ON BIOPRO'S CLAIMS ABOUT THEIR PRODUCTS AS WELL AS THEY SLANDER ABOUT THE COMPANIES WHOM CREATE WIRELESS PRODUCTS.

December 15, 2008 9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I install wireless Alarm system, just found out about Biopro from dowsing site.
dowser is claiming gio stress come from underground, they can dowse and I am believe in this.
However, I found this site to know about something,
I know dowsing really works to find out water line but ... how much can I believe those information , if I buy dowsing kits , it is expensive like Harmonizer , I may fool myself.
We need cheep and affordable those protection systems , $5 for each cell phone is reasonable, and
Or even if it is $1 cost with one cell phone, I think cell phone company will use this material for part of cell phone. Any electricity companies will use this tech with $1 value and I am sue the Harmonizer companies are going well.
I don't think it is really smart to train people to cell
unreasonable expensive stuff, from $42 each ,
the company biopro's concept is so strange to do this.
They could ask to any companies to use this tip
with $1, cars, TVs PCs, phones, any kind of thing,
and could receive enough money than they try to sell with trainers.
The business sense is not so well with their patent.
If I am this owner, I chose to sell this with $1 for all of people.

December 17, 2008 1:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT!?

Try "Hooked on Phonics"!

December 19, 2008 4:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol lol -this blog is full of crap-

December 22, 2008 12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't understand why someone would give their nieve opinion about something without doing there research first. do your research!

December 25, 2008 12:29 AM  
Anonymous Ann Wainright said...

My health totally improved with Biopro products-thank you Biopro and my brother who introduced me to them.

December 28, 2008 1:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you BIOPRO, thank you so much for bring the MORONS in the world out of the wood work and showing the whole world the underclass of morons that will believe and fall for just about ANYTHING!

You are so great BIORPO! You have shown that with a little bit of time on your hands and enough money you can create a bogus product, place some really cool marketing science behind it, over price it and make a ton of money from MORONS.

Great work BIOPRO! GREAT FRAUDULENT WORK BIPPRO!!!

I want to fucking PUKE!

December 28, 2008 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Biopro I'm having great results with your pendant, i think the person responsable for this Blog should start taking it too, and try to feal better...Wow soo much anger!!!!

December 29, 2008 3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your right!! so much anger for no reason, do some research first, try these products, and if they don't work for you send it back...easy..!!!
-You don't need to call us Morons-

December 30, 2008 4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW.. You should fucking PUKE on yourself!!! That may be very alluring for you..

December 31, 2008 11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't come on here with your lame attempts to support a fraudulent product and NOT expect to be called a moron. It is about time we all call things as they are - a moron is a moron and a scam is a scam!

December 31, 2008 12:32 PM  
Anonymous TJ said...

I buy stuff from Biopro all the time, and my family and I are very happy.

December 31, 2008 4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how many of these cell phone chips they have sold since they started selling hem about 5 years ago?

December 31, 2008 5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biopro is not in MLM to actually cell the products, the products are only the "allure". They make most of their money from new consultant sign ups and "down lines" which is where the scam starts. The products are just marketing tools to sell the "business". They have created such a fraud that it is over the top. Its so over the top that some people fall for without question. Once you question Biopro they have no more time for you.

Some people come on here and leave postings about how they got the product and they "feel" better. This is NOT science and is DANGEROUS! It is dangerous because you are propagating the same falsehood their helping block EMF and this is impossible.

January 02, 2009 7:17 PM  
Blogger Steven Menzel said...

Where's your proof? Interesting your profile is blank. Just another spineless whiner.

January 07, 2009 11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How weird that anyone who really thinks this is a true scam would get so wound up and bent over other people purchasing the bio pro products. Even if they have a positive placebo effect isn't that worth the cost to that person? The biggest scammers in the US are the drug companies and the FDA. Maybe some of those angry people out there wish they were driving a Ferrari instead of that Honda.
Yesterday I met someone who is a consultant, so today I am finding out about bi pro with an open mind. Oh my dog wears a qlink and he says its splendid, he also said I'm a moron.
And yes the original blogger needs to expose their profile, only a moron starts a blog wearing an invisible cape. They probably died from a brain tumor after using their iphone and microwave at the same time...........

January 08, 2009 12:41 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

We are not wound up over people purchasing Biopro products, you are vacant in your thoughts. We are wound up over the fact Biopro is getting away with selling such a FRAUDULENT product in today's day and age.

We have stated that people can purchase whatever they want - but they should understand that the placebo effect is the ONLY thing they are getting out of these products. It is NOT a fix and it is dangerous for Biopro to push this idea JUST to sell some phoney products. We believe EMF is NOT a problem as Biopro scares people into believing. We are a group of scientists whom have direct and indirect experience in the electronic community. Yes, some feel EMF and it may be annoying but by no means is EMF "deadly" as Biopro says. This is just irresponsible propaganda by a bunch of MLM'ers whom NONE of which have a background OR a degree in this area of science.

Your calling us out to expose our identity and yet you posted anonymously... how ironic!

We have CHOSE to stay anonymous, as we have stated on our own Blog, for good reason. Ray Grimm has a history of threatening people and using the large sums of capitol he has in personal wealth to intimidate and even ruin people that get in his way. Another reason you should be very cautious about getting involved with Biopro.

If your dog says your a moron, and we all know how stupid dogs are, you may want to seek out a shrink before you blow a fortune on Biopro.

January 09, 2009 1:10 PM  
Blogger EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

We are not wound up over people purchasing Biopro products, you are vacant in your thoughts. We are wound up over the fact Biopro is getting away with selling such a FRAUDULENT product in today's day and age.

We have stated that people can purchase whatever they want - but they should understand that the placebo effect is the ONLY thing they are getting out of these products. It is NOT a fix and it is dangerous for Biopro to push this idea JUST to sell some phoney products. We believe EMF is NOT a problem as Biopro scares people into believing. We are a group of scientists whom have direct and indirect experience in the electronic community. Yes, some feel EMF and it may be annoying but by no means is EMF "deadly" as Biopro says. This is just irresponsible propaganda by a bunch of MLM'ers whom NONE of which have a background OR a degree in this area of science.

Your calling us out to expose our identity and yet you posted anonymously... how ironic!

We have CHOSE to stay anonymous, as we have stated on our own Blog, for good reason. Ray Grimm has a history of threatening people and using the large sums of capitol he has in personal wealth to intimidate and even ruin people that get in his way. Another reason you should be very cautious about getting involved with Biopro.

If your dog says your a moron, and we all know how stupid dogs are, you may want to seek out a shrink before you blow a fortune on Biopro.

January 09, 2009 1:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stupid moron here again, my dog wants you to know his IQ increased since wearing his qlink too and that you are the stupid one if you think all dogs are stupid, tar everything and everyone with the same brush do you?
The only ones swearing and getting hot under the collars are the "against bunch" in this blog...
Whether it works or not if it produces a positive placebo effect for the purchaser it was worth the cash, that persons life enriched - I would say that was priceless. If not send it back and be none the worse off.
If they have become rich from a scam, let them enjoy it while they can because what comes around goes around for us all.
When you bought yours - come on you know you did - did your penis shrink - cause I read in the paper EMF's make your willy grow - or so my dog told me.

January 09, 2009 2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh....... and you posted your last little message twice Mr. Twitchy Finger.

January 09, 2009 2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is so dangerous please explain....."It is NOT a fix and it is dangerous for Biopro to push this idea JUST to sell some phoney products".

January 09, 2009 2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is dangerous because if what biopro is saying is true, and IF is a HUGE word here - "EMF/EMR is an epidemic on the level of smoking and global warming", then they are giving a FLASE sense of protection because they know and they can not prove their products work.

Biopro also can't prove EMF/EMR is dangerous - this whole thing is just a new "Man Made Global Warming" propaganda campaign for MONEY pure and simple.

These people are NOT scientists, the people they trot out in their little meetings are not electrical engineers or scientists - they are just MLM scam artists.

When your intent is profit then your product or service is tainted by a false purpose and destined for a bad outcome. This is the root of what makes biopro dangerous. They HIDE this fact well, they convince people threw propaganda that they know of this danger and have the ONLY solution, that they are trying to help society while behind your back they are laughing at you and counting your money.

Nothing about this company is rooted in an honest product or person - they are just veteran MLM'ers and know how to make lots of money off the suckers of society and with that type of motivation people get ripped off and hurt in more ways than one.

January 16, 2009 1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest scam in here is TODD BAILEY, he is kind of a web designer. I got to know him a couple years ago and he screwed the system. He worked for Biopro, he got fired right after...*Be aware of him*

January 19, 2009 3:25 PM  
Anonymous fj said...

Todd bailey? really? i know his wife..

January 22, 2009 11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so how do i reduce the fukn radioation

January 23, 2009 10:57 AM  
Anonymous b.s. said...

killing Todd Bailey....ahahahahaah

January 23, 2009 12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I truly believe that the products have postive effects on the human body for its protection.

Fraud or NO fraud. These products have helped me.

I've been told Ray Grimm is no longer with the company.

January 23, 2009 8:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical! And it is Biopro that is exposing some former pee-on employee and blaming them for these blogs. If this person is a nobody and what they are saying is not true then why not ignore these blogs?

“Kill him”? WOW! What a fundamentally sound company and product and what COMPASSION - NOT!

If this person was such a joke Biopro, why do you keep posting your angry vacant comments? It is so typical for someone with a vacant argument to push blame and divert attention away from their own failures. It just seems extremely curios to blame an “employee”. Blame a President or blame someone in the top executive staff yes… but a pee-on employee? Get a grip Biopro, you’re pushing a scam, your feeling guilty and now you’re being exposed. No one goes to jail without kicking a screaming!

January 25, 2009 4:08 PM  
Anonymous f.l. said...

I have had so many good results with this products, there are amazing...thanks Biopro.

January 26, 2009 5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Author of this site needs to do some research himself. This is very old information the BioPro Chips are improved and better since this was pubished. There is at least 5 Universites that have made sudies on the MERT and ERT technology and have proven it works. I agree with the October 11, 06 commment. If you blocked it you would not have a signal.

January 26, 2009 11:17 PM  
Anonymous b.j. said...

unfortunately The Author of this site is an hopping man, that goes by the name of TODD BAILEY. we all know that!! stop wasting your time on here..

January 27, 2009 12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unfortunately The Author of this site is an hopping man, that goes by the name of TODD BAILEY. we all know that!! stop wasting your time on here..

January 27, 2009 12:27 PM  
Blogger Emily said...

Biopro NEVER claimed to block the radiation. Maybe you should learn to do some research before you lie.

Companies that claim to block radiation are fraudulent. The cell phone just works harder.

Biopro CHANGED the frequency from high to low so it doesn't cook your brain.

Those that jump to conclusions before getting educated- i welcome you to keep your cell phones on your belt - That way your genes can't be passed down.

February 18, 2009 4:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see a lot of cell phone reps and other government debunkers on this site leaving the same old lies about something designed to help people from unnecessary suffering.

What else is knew.

I wonder how many of you responding work in the medical and pharmaceutical fields. These fields make most of their hundreds of billions a year off the drugs they sell due to cancers and other diseases and illnesses that are causes by this form of radiation.

We have always known that electrical energy gives off harmful radiation be it in the form of x-rays (t.v.'s,monitors, cpu's) microwaves or electromagnetic fields, which are produced by most if not all of todays appliances INCLUDING hair dryers, automobiles, and even these new energy saving light bulbs(the mercury vapor in these bulbs are lethal and are 100 times the safe exposure limit set by the EPA and is responsible for many many deaths world wide, most of them children. Google it, the latest case was in Australia in early Feb, 09).

ASk any one who lives in or around high tension electrical wires( these are the huge power lines that run throughout the country and are controlled through localized central grids).

People who lived in mobile parks and housing projects have a 100% mortality after 20 years exposure of living under these power lines and most of these mobile home parks have since been relocated nation wide, whenever and wherever possible.

Your government and phone company agents who have been blogging on this page are not fooling anyone, well practically not anyone. They will always convince some of the sheep that they are legit, like my son, but after I showed him the real facts, the only question he had is "why would our own government want to be trying to harm us?"

Are you kidding me?

Look up in the sky people!!! Do you see those long trails that are being left by unmarked jets? No they are not vapor or contrails. Contrails dissipate after a few minutes. These trails go from horizon to horizon, get bigger, spread out covering the whole sky and eventually block out the sun. This is world wide, people and only started doing it a few years ago.
Studies have shown that these planes are spraying aluminum and barium oxides ALONG WITH DEADLY PATHINOGENS!! YOUR GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO DENY EVERYTHING!!!

So you think you're government( FCC, FDA, EPA) care about you? You're fooling yourself.

They would do anything they could to PROVE that BioPro technology as well as others is a scam. It almost seems that they are trying to de-populated the planet, so why not cast doubt on any product that could save billions of people over a few decades or so.

WAKE UP YOU SHEEP OF THE WORLD !!!!
Protect yourself and if that means using this technology than you'd better do it.

And do not continue to listen to the nay-sayers for they do indeed have hidden agendas or why would they even waste their time on websites like these.


I do not work for this or any other company like it. I was introduced to this technology back in the 80's while working for the Navy. They had it and used it then and now I'm just glad that it has found it's was to the public, even though it took 20 years to get here. I 'm sure it is about 20 years too later for many and thats too bad.

How many more will suffer before the phone companies and governmental agencies are held accountable for their greed and injustices? That's up to you, up to ALL of us.

BioPRo and the technology behind it. The truth is quite simple- we do in fact live in a world of man-made electromagnetic fields and they are very different from natural fields and also very dangerous.

February 20, 2009 12:08 AM  
Anonymous Tj said...

Wow...totally agree with you Bro..

February 20, 2009 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not sure I or anyone should take what someone says on a Blog as "truth" and you should not either TJ - especially someone that can not use proper English when typing. Plus, all I hear from this person is that same propaganda Biopro spews.

Does ANYONE have "absolute" evidence of EMF dangers and absolute evidence Biopro works?

February 21, 2009 8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Author of this site is an hopping man, that goes by the name of TODD BAILEY. we all know that!! stop wasting your time on here..

February 24, 2009 11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you mean? You are not speaking proper English. What I think you mean is "hoping" or to hope. So what is he hoping for? You make no sense at all and maybe you should shut up yourself because you are not making BIOPRO look any better with your comments. If Todd was a former employee then maybe he knows something you don't want anyone to read.

Based on your comments we should read more about Todd has to say because they obviously know enough about BIOPRO they have drawn you out of your cubicle to monitor this site and make some of the lamest attempts to counter him.

Keep up the good work Todd with exposing BIOPRO for the scam they are!

February 24, 2009 6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Todd Bailey the guy that works for homeland security and lives in san elijo hills?

February 25, 2009 3:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it is he should have them check the legal status on the people working at BIOPRO including the new CEO!!!

February 25, 2009 4:02 PM  
Anonymous bj said...

yes i think so, Todd bailey is such a bad person, how is he allowed to work for homeland security; however i think he is only working there because of his wife.

February 26, 2009 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You couldn’t be that bad Todd if you are defending our country from terrorist! These people are just hypocrites as none of the family members have ever worked in a job they earned on their own. They were all given jobs by Ray Grimm and based on their posts about you are completely out of touch of reality.

What we need is more people like Todd exposing you frauds and more people defending us internally form political terrorist like this new congress and administration as well as the economic terrorist like the BIOPRO’s who through propaganda extort peoples vulnerabilities and ultimately their money.

You all at BIOPRO should be ashamed of yourselves!

February 26, 2009 7:29 PM  
Anonymous m.s. said...

I have eard that he was fired from
Homeland security...

March 03, 2009 4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Ray Grimm was fired...

March 03, 2009 6:16 PM  
Anonymous b.s. said...

Yes, Ray Grimm was fired from biopro and now he's working for Homeland security...

March 04, 2009 11:12 AM  

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